In reply to Post #15
4 turns of the spool cap would be spool so loose it's falling off to locked up, rock solid. In what situation would you need to do that in one go?
I wasn't saying that your opinion is wrong, just asking why? The 5000T has loads of lovely smooth, useable drag. It's probably one of the only things about the reel that has not been surpassed.
4 turns of the spool cap would be spool so loose it's falling off to locked up, rock solid. In what situation would you need to do that in one go?
I wasn't saying that your opinion is wrong, just asking why? The 5000T has loads of lovely smooth, useable drag. It's probably one of the only things about the reel that has not been surpassed.
In reply to Post #16
I'm just saying I would prefer the drag to be half the turns that it is now. I've spent 900 on reels I want them to be perfect mate.
I was playing a fish on them and as beautiful and smooth the clutch is I came to the conclusion the drag may lose me fish to hook pulls. I had a fish o4⁴n with a clump of weed stuck around the leader knot. So when I thought the fish was ready for the net I tightened up the clutch to lift the weed and bring the fish up. And as fish do it went on a last lunge for freedom. And because the clutch was tight it took me that extra couple of seconds to loosen clutch. This is the main reason I want them speeding up. Obviously looking at things it's fair to say a good 50% of tourney owners do the same for same reason or another.
I'm just saying I would prefer the drag to be half the turns that it is now. I've spent 900 on reels I want them to be perfect mate.
I was playing a fish on them and as beautiful and smooth the clutch is I came to the conclusion the drag may lose me fish to hook pulls. I had a fish o4⁴n with a clump of weed stuck around the leader knot. So when I thought the fish was ready for the net I tightened up the clutch to lift the weed and bring the fish up. And as fish do it went on a last lunge for freedom. And because the clutch was tight it took me that extra couple of seconds to loosen clutch. This is the main reason I want them speeding up. Obviously looking at things it's fair to say a good 50% of tourney owners do the same for same reason or another.
In reply to Post #17
That's the beauty of the stock clutch, you have so much adjustment you don't need to ever be in that situation. You can always tighten the clutch to just the right point where you have enough to land the fish, but if can take line if it needs too. I had a go with a quick drag recently and what an awful experience, such a little amount of adjustment, it was always either too tight or too loose.
Everyone has different ways they like to do things, but I wouldn't give up on the stock drag just yet, take some time to get used to it.
That's the beauty of the stock clutch, you have so much adjustment you don't need to ever be in that situation. You can always tighten the clutch to just the right point where you have enough to land the fish, but if can take line if it needs too. I had a go with a quick drag recently and what an awful experience, such a little amount of adjustment, it was always either too tight or too loose.
Everyone has different ways they like to do things, but I wouldn't give up on the stock drag just yet, take some time to get used to it.
Maybe your right maybe I'm not used to them. Well it's pretty obvious I'm not . However I did have to have it locked up to lift the weed it weighed a ton lol.
In reply to Post #17
My diy emblem qd takes the spool from slack bait runner to firm fish playing in half a turn, and a further quarter of a turn to solid lock up.
There is plenty enough micro adjustment available to make fish playing a breeze and easy to suddenly compensate if needed.
My diy emblem qd takes the spool from slack bait runner to firm fish playing in half a turn, and a further quarter of a turn to solid lock up.
There is plenty enough micro adjustment available to make fish playing a breeze and easy to suddenly compensate if needed.
I got some speed caps and find them too quick for me, way too sensitive, I find the carbon washers with the standard caps a better all rounder, it's like 2 1/2 full turns from locked up to fully loose and it's spot on, found them even faster than the ci4 xtc I had before which were horrible.
In reply to Post #19
All personal preference - I've got carbon washers and Reel Kings speed caps on 2x sets of Tournies (5000 & 6000T) and my SS2600 collection. If coming from a non QD product (with multiple turns from freespool to locked) the conversions do take some getting used to but they are certainly just as useable if not more practical in terms of real world carp fishing; I play all my fish off the clutch and this just requires micro rather than macro movements. Most of my carp fishing is locked up or pretty much locked up - casting is fully locked up - I never set up my reels to peel off line to infinity and beyond; why would anyone? The only time we need a freespool is when setting indicators or maybe at the end of the session when the rods are on the deck off their sticks / pod. QDs also make this a lot easier / quicker!
My advice - ignore the Tourney clutch purists and give them a go; the ability to give line within 10-12 'clicks' during a fight (you will soon get a feel for how many clicks do what in terms of tension) rather than 3-4 revolutions is an advantage IMO - especially with bigger fish that can take line under a tight clutch at will . . .
All personal preference - I've got carbon washers and Reel Kings speed caps on 2x sets of Tournies (5000 & 6000T) and my SS2600 collection. If coming from a non QD product (with multiple turns from freespool to locked) the conversions do take some getting used to but they are certainly just as useable if not more practical in terms of real world carp fishing; I play all my fish off the clutch and this just requires micro rather than macro movements. Most of my carp fishing is locked up or pretty much locked up - casting is fully locked up - I never set up my reels to peel off line to infinity and beyond; why would anyone? The only time we need a freespool is when setting indicators or maybe at the end of the session when the rods are on the deck off their sticks / pod. QDs also make this a lot easier / quicker!
My advice - ignore the Tourney clutch purists and give them a go; the ability to give line within 10-12 'clicks' during a fight (you will soon get a feel for how many clicks do what in terms of tension) rather than 3-4 revolutions is an advantage IMO - especially with bigger fish that can take line under a tight clutch at will . . .
In reply to Post #21
Weston spools and normal cap is perfect IMO
Weston spools and normal cap is perfect IMO