Thought i would help him out a bit. Just bought a £20 worth of tickets for his transet and the rt7 🤞
In reply to Post #15
you've taken that a bit of of context, what i said was
'no one is raffeling off gear to help out the less fortunate folk'
as in the op saying about how much money it appears to make. There main objective as a business is to make money. So you can maybe get a new set of rods for 39p not because they want to provide rods to someone for cheep but because offering a set of rods to how ever many people turns a tidy profit for them.
and no gambling does not help people who cant afford things but it does turn over a decent chunk of money for the ones providing the service.
you've taken that a bit of of context, what i said was
'no one is raffeling off gear to help out the less fortunate folk'
as in the op saying about how much money it appears to make. There main objective as a business is to make money. So you can maybe get a new set of rods for 39p not because they want to provide rods to someone for cheep but because offering a set of rods to how ever many people turns a tidy profit for them.
and no gambling does not help people who cant afford things but it does turn over a decent chunk of money for the ones providing the service.
I'll leave this here -- https://www.begambleaware.org
In reply to Post #17
Ahh gotcha. I read it wrong. These sites do prey on people who can't afford things. The odds are often atrocious. The omaze ones seem the absolute worst. Seems they have unlimited amounts of tickets, constantly advertise the raffle is ending soon and it never does.
I have a flutter every now and again to win the odd prize that I wouldn't be able to buy unless I won it. What baffles me is the ones where the prize is something like 5kg of boilies, and the tickets are a few quid. They seem to sell out, but who the hell is gambling a few quid to win £35 worth of bait at 50/1 odds and why.
Ahh gotcha. I read it wrong. These sites do prey on people who can't afford things. The odds are often atrocious. The omaze ones seem the absolute worst. Seems they have unlimited amounts of tickets, constantly advertise the raffle is ending soon and it never does.
I have a flutter every now and again to win the odd prize that I wouldn't be able to buy unless I won it. What baffles me is the ones where the prize is something like 5kg of boilies, and the tickets are a few quid. They seem to sell out, but who the hell is gambling a few quid to win £35 worth of bait at 50/1 odds and why.
In reply to Post #19
I think its a bit of a grey area in gambling law where they operate and that's why you have to answer a really easy question to enter.
Don't get me wrong I have the odd go on there when something catches my fancy but to my recollection i dont remember seeing any gamble aware posts on there when i've played in the past.
I think its a bit of a grey area in gambling law where they operate and that's why you have to answer a really easy question to enter.
Don't get me wrong I have the odd go on there when something catches my fancy but to my recollection i dont remember seeing any gamble aware posts on there when i've played in the past.
In reply to Post #17
Totally agree. It's called taking advantage of the unfortunate. Any angler putting their name to this should look at themselves in the mirror.
Totally agree. It's called taking advantage of the unfortunate. Any angler putting their name to this should look at themselves in the mirror.
In reply to Post #21
Not a dissimilar business model to the National Lottery, but at least from what i've read here this guy offers you better odds for a decent prize.
Not a dissimilar business model to the National Lottery, but at least from what i've read here this guy offers you better odds for a decent prize.
In reply to Post #22
Unless a Mark Pitchers fronted carp raffle is now state-franchised and legally bound to pass revenue to the UK Government and a Parliament approved Community Fund I would argue that that they are dissimilar business models.
Unless a Mark Pitchers fronted carp raffle is now state-franchised and legally bound to pass revenue to the UK Government and a Parliament approved Community Fund I would argue that that they are dissimilar business models.
In reply to Post #20
Pretty sure I saw a documentary on gambling in the UK and the reason for the easy question is something like. If you charge to buy a ticket and then pick a winner at random it is classed as a lottery and you need to have a lottery license to trade in this way. Which I believe is expensive and regulated.
However if you ask a question it becomes a game of skill, or knowledge and is therefore not a lottery and you don't need to have the lottery license.
There was a grey area around what is a sufficiently difficult question and it was all very subjective. The only bit I can remember was something like, if the question can easily be "googled" and the answer found easily that would probably not be deemed as sufficiently difficult. Or if the question was just obvious.
Pretty sure I saw a documentary on gambling in the UK and the reason for the easy question is something like. If you charge to buy a ticket and then pick a winner at random it is classed as a lottery and you need to have a lottery license to trade in this way. Which I believe is expensive and regulated.
However if you ask a question it becomes a game of skill, or knowledge and is therefore not a lottery and you don't need to have the lottery license.
There was a grey area around what is a sufficiently difficult question and it was all very subjective. The only bit I can remember was something like, if the question can easily be "googled" and the answer found easily that would probably not be deemed as sufficiently difficult. Or if the question was just obvious.
I don't have an issue with Mark Pitchers competition- but I don't like it or anything in this model. I work for a charity with various gaming licenses and really don't think they are properly regulated in the way big companies are.
Firstly let's not ever forget this is gambling- not fun playing chance, but prizes that bring usually unattainable prizes. The money is not reinvested for the good of angling so not like the national lottery. The amount of tickets is pure greed, you take the trade cost of the item (not retail) and then sell tickets to X times the value.
There are a few where they just cover costs and make a reasonable profit, I can see the fun in that.
For me this stinks - the OMaze lifestyle prize draw, where someone on thier arse spends £100 for a 1 in XXk chance of winning a Porsche and a house in Wales makes me sad. I get aspirational thinking, but not for me.
Not a single gamble aware mention on the site that I can see. Check the odds against the trade value of a product and think to yourselves, if you and 11 mates all went to your local shop and said those £1k rods, how about we all give you £300 and you pick a name out of a hat - he'd say so you're gonna give me £3600.00 for a set of rods that cost me £500.00 yep I'm up for that boys!
Firstly let's not ever forget this is gambling- not fun playing chance, but prizes that bring usually unattainable prizes. The money is not reinvested for the good of angling so not like the national lottery. The amount of tickets is pure greed, you take the trade cost of the item (not retail) and then sell tickets to X times the value.
There are a few where they just cover costs and make a reasonable profit, I can see the fun in that.
For me this stinks - the OMaze lifestyle prize draw, where someone on thier arse spends £100 for a 1 in XXk chance of winning a Porsche and a house in Wales makes me sad. I get aspirational thinking, but not for me.
Not a single gamble aware mention on the site that I can see. Check the odds against the trade value of a product and think to yourselves, if you and 11 mates all went to your local shop and said those £1k rods, how about we all give you £300 and you pick a name out of a hat - he'd say so you're gonna give me £3600.00 for a set of rods that cost me £500.00 yep I'm up for that boys!
In reply to Post #25
The lottery pays a fraction of its takings to charity now compared to what it did when it first started. Believe omaze pay 15% of its profits after the top people have had their huge salaries. While many charities do a lot of good many are headed by a CEO and board of directors on big salaries that they would not earn working in the private sector.
The lottery pays a fraction of its takings to charity now compared to what it did when it first started. Believe omaze pay 15% of its profits after the top people have had their huge salaries. While many charities do a lot of good many are headed by a CEO and board of directors on big salaries that they would not earn working in the private sector.
In reply to Post #26
They declare approx 28p on the £1 to charity now. Big sums when they add up, a lot of which goes to grass roots sports.
In 1994 the National lottery declared that 25% went to charity.
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/lln-2015-0049/
28p is better than 25p no?
They declare approx 28p on the £1 to charity now. Big sums when they add up, a lot of which goes to grass roots sports.
In 1994 the National lottery declared that 25% went to charity.
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/lln-2015-0049/
28p is better than 25p no?
In reply to Post #26
Sorry I'm a bit lost - what bit are you replying to?
I don't doubt anything you say but any money to charity is better than nothing - hardly the same as a competition with none. I don't like the omaze model as I maybe know too much about it.
Personally I just don't like seeing others gamble what they can't afford - but that's not for me to decide what they can and can't do, just that bit of me that things - ah man.
Sorry I'm a bit lost - what bit are you replying to?
I don't doubt anything you say but any money to charity is better than nothing - hardly the same as a competition with none. I don't like the omaze model as I maybe know too much about it.
Personally I just don't like seeing others gamble what they can't afford - but that's not for me to decide what they can and can't do, just that bit of me that things - ah man.
In reply to Post #1
Is this his main venture now? Judging by the "content" Fox are putting out on social media, you'd think they could not care less about marketing.
Is this his main venture now? Judging by the "content" Fox are putting out on social media, you'd think they could not care less about marketing.
In reply to Post #27
Dig deeper and go back further,
Dig deeper and go back further,