In reply to Post #1
There's something of a contradiction when stories of Redmire during the 70's and 80's are told. The two large fish that Chris referred to again in this interview and he called them The King and The Black Queen. Seen by many and yet uncaught. The 'dreamers' and the Influencers' have all seen them and yet the Scientists deny their existence. Someone with a copy closer to hand may recall the words of Kevin Clifford in his book 'Redmire' when the entire population of carp came to the surface soon after dawn (during the 1976 heatwave) and stayed there all day. All of the known fish could be identified and yet these two biggies remained strangley absent. I believe the Bishop was the King and no other monsters existed, but I appreciate their inclusion was almost compulsory to a writer like CY. Long live the dreamers...
There's something of a contradiction when stories of Redmire during the 70's and 80's are told. The two large fish that Chris referred to again in this interview and he called them The King and The Black Queen. Seen by many and yet uncaught. The 'dreamers' and the Influencers' have all seen them and yet the Scientists deny their existence. Someone with a copy closer to hand may recall the words of Kevin Clifford in his book 'Redmire' when the entire population of carp came to the surface soon after dawn (during the 1976 heatwave) and stayed there all day. All of the known fish could be identified and yet these two biggies remained strangley absent. I believe the Bishop was the King and no other monsters existed, but I appreciate their inclusion was almost compulsory to a writer like CY. Long live the dreamers...
In reply to Post #16
I did have the redmire book and if I recall someone said to get down here quick via a phone call and the comment was I think ‘now I know there's 40's,50's and 60's in redmire' but I could be wrong,also dick walker found a common that was beached in the shallows that some male carp had chased and he weighed her before putting her back and she was 58lb with spawn,also there was 2 chub in there smallest was 5.5lb and biggest estimated at 12lb plus a Gudgeon that was around 12” long and out at 1lb in weight.
Came across this just
https://www.traditionalfisherman.com/viewtopic.php?t=14425
And what about the famous Eddie price picture,cameras where poor back then,
I did have the redmire book and if I recall someone said to get down here quick via a phone call and the comment was I think ‘now I know there's 40's,50's and 60's in redmire' but I could be wrong,also dick walker found a common that was beached in the shallows that some male carp had chased and he weighed her before putting her back and she was 58lb with spawn,also there was 2 chub in there smallest was 5.5lb and biggest estimated at 12lb plus a Gudgeon that was around 12” long and out at 1lb in weight.
Came across this just
https://www.traditionalfisherman.com/viewtopic.php?t=14425
And what about the famous Eddie price picture,cameras where poor back then,
In reply to Post #17
Didn't know about the chub,
Eels gudgeon and carp yes
Didn't know about the chub,
Eels gudgeon and carp yes
In reply to Post #18
Think they were put in as ex live bait as it was originally a trout water,back to the gudgeon I believe dick waker had the gudgeon in his hands at one point they used to feed on the bits of bread and stuff dropped in the edge
Think they were put in as ex live bait as it was originally a trout water,back to the gudgeon I believe dick waker had the gudgeon in his hands at one point they used to feed on the bits of bread and stuff dropped in the edge
In reply to Post #19
Pike and perch tend to colonise waters, surprised have not heard about them
Pike and perch tend to colonise waters, surprised have not heard about them
Must admit it gets harder to believe the dreamers when you hear stories of 1lb gudgeon and 12lb chubb from a still water rather than a river.
Redmere was certainly a water with huge fish , but the romantic and dreamy stories need to be taken for what they are .
Lets face it , the fish we loose and never catch are always the biggest
Redmere was certainly a water with huge fish , but the romantic and dreamy stories need to be taken for what they are .
Lets face it , the fish we loose and never catch are always the biggest
In reply to Post #17
In my post that I'm quoting/replying to it was Fred j Taylor who said these words
“ Fred J Taylor recounted a story of seeing the Redmire carp spawning in the shallows and was convinced there were 40, 50 and even 60lb fish in full view. They went amongst the fish with the punt and could touch them with a rod tip. He said afterwards " Now I know there are sixty ”
Knew I'd seen it somewhere
In my post that I'm quoting/replying to it was Fred j Taylor who said these words
“ Fred J Taylor recounted a story of seeing the Redmire carp spawning in the shallows and was convinced there were 40, 50 and even 60lb fish in full view. They went amongst the fish with the punt and could touch them with a rod tip. He said afterwards " Now I know there are sixty ”
Knew I'd seen it somewhere
In reply to Post #22
I think it was in hutchinsons 1st book a picture of a carp between weed, it looked big, if the korda boys had caught it I'm sure l would have heard a get in, or a come on, ahhh how we have progressed
I think it was in hutchinsons 1st book a picture of a carp between weed, it looked big, if the korda boys had caught it I'm sure l would have heard a get in, or a come on, ahhh how we have progressed
In reply to Post #23
I've fished redmire once in January 2011 blanked but didn't care as it's a special water to me as I grew up hearing about all these myths and ledgends
I've fished redmire once in January 2011 blanked but didn't care as it's a special water to me as I grew up hearing about all these myths and ledgends
In reply to Post #23
I wouldn't class FJ or DW as reliable witnesses.
I wouldn't class FJ or DW as reliable witnesses.
In reply to Post #25
If Fred caught it he would have made a clay oven and eaten it
Who needs Eastern europeans
If Fred caught it he would have made a clay oven and eaten it
Who needs Eastern europeans
In reply to Post #26
I was offered his position when he retired as a regional TV wild cooking chef. It wasn't for ne.
I was offered his position when he retired as a regional TV wild cooking chef. It wasn't for ne.
In reply to Post #25
Both absolute legends.
Both absolute legends.
Eddie Prices photograph 1958 from the Punt
In reply to Post #1
Legend of a man. Not usually one for podcasts but this one I definitely will be listening to.Sad to think that one day there will possibly be no more of these old English characters left, the worlds changed so much in such short space of time
Legend of a man. Not usually one for podcasts but this one I definitely will be listening to.Sad to think that one day there will possibly be no more of these old English characters left, the worlds changed so much in such short space of time