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Not another alarm debate (31 posts / 1,750 views)
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #16 24 Jun 2022 19:42
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its laughable these bullshine claims of grooving

what bobbins are they using 4lb ones ?
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #17 24 Jun 2022 20:33
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In reply to Post #9
And you know they havent replaced them how?

And who said theyd need replacing anyway? Im sure they still work if they are cut into. And to think briad wont damage them over time is a little silly dont you think. Its abrasive, and gets hot when it moves across stuff fast, so why would it not cut in?

I use delkims by the way, but just cause i use them, dorsnt mean i cant see the weaknesses
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #18 24 Jun 2022 20:33
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In reply to Post #9
And you know they havent replaced them how?

And who said theyd need replacing anyway? Im sure they still work if they are cut into. And to think briad wont damage them over time is a little silly dont you think. Its abrasive, and gets hot when it moves across stuff fast, so why would it not cut in?

I use delkims by the way, but just cause i use them, dorsnt mean i cant see the weaknesses
ip100 ip100
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Post #19 24 Jun 2022 20:42
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In reply to Post #17
Why, when so many others have made the same comments do you direct your messages at me? On more than 1 thread lately .
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #20 24 Jun 2022 20:48
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In reply to Post #19
Because yours was the first reply, and it was you i replied to initially, and you were the only one that claimed delkim have never had to replace them.

Is that a sufficient answer?

And no idea what other thread you are talking about as i dont memorise such things, but its likely because i was replying to what you said
ip100 ip100
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Post #21 24 Jun 2022 20:55
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In reply to Post #20
The post before mine was the first actually
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #22 24 Jun 2022 21:17
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In reply to Post #21
My bad, but the point i was making still stands
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #23 24 Jun 2022 23:12
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I remember a mate of mine turning up for an over-nighter and stating “I've had my Delks serviced and just got them back, they had the “Y” shaped sensors changed on all three they were worn out, they do it as standard when you have them serviced” That was back in the 90's

~ I presumed, they got changed when required?
ip100 ip100
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Post #24 25 Jun 2022 00:38
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The y sensors are guaranteed for life against wear. They wouldnt be doing that unless they knew that braid wouldn't damage them.
RigDemon RigDemon
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Post #25 25 Jun 2022 01:48
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In reply to Post #1
Sorry didn't mean for this to morph into a braid causing damage debate. Only mentioned it as a mate of mine told me about the problem having experienced it directly himself a few years ago. I have noticed some scoring on the vortex air guides on a couple of rods that I've used braid with so clearly it will bite into surfaces.

Personally I'd rather not take a risk and just use my Fox's for the braid situations only.


Ynnek
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Post #26 25 Jun 2022 05:07
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In reply to Post #10
If you fish in angles those line cuts can happen. I've got the same on my Nash r3.
Once that happened I've mailed the Nash gang via their contact info on the site. No replies..
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #27 25 Jun 2022 09:49
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In reply to Post #25
but you cant compare a rod ring ?

as there is a huge difference the line is under pressure against the ring............... and its nothing like a line running out on a bait runner with hardly any tension in comparison (unless your using a 4lb bobbin)
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #28 25 Jun 2022 09:57
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In reply to Post #27
Very few people use Baitrunners these days Gerry, the vast majority set their clutches so line can be only just released without the Rod being dragged in – common sense really as there's then no need to strike as the clutch tension causes self-hooking, also a Reel's spool spinning out of control causes mass line twist.

Braid has a habit of picking up fine sand and grit partials when wet, truth be told it wreaks anything it rubs against with time.
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #29 25 Jun 2022 10:39
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In reply to Post #24
They are guaranteed, but if you read the rest of that section on their site, copy and pasted below for your convenience it does suggest ways of preventing damage, and that their service department are the only people who can replace them.

Sensor/Line Guide
The line guide has a lifetime guarantee against wear but the sensor itself does not and, although it is designed to withstand normal use, it is possible for an extreme shock to cause a permanent loss of sensitivity.
As the sensor/line guide is the most important part of the Delkim, it is essential to treat it with care and in particular DO NOT test it with any hard object or subject it to any abnormal pressure. Should it become damaged it can be only be replaced by our service department.
It is also recommended to leave a gap between the butt ring and the front or rear of the alarm to avoid damage to the sensor or mouldings.
Goose Goose
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Post #30 25 Jun 2022 11:01
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In reply to Post #27
Various materials used on rod rings now, some are deffinately better than others with braid. Delkim vebration sensor has a far smaller surface area than a single rod ring although the load is spread over all rings with the tip taking most bothe on the cast and retrieval.
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