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Winter time condensation: aquatexx vs nylon (34 posts / 3,424 views)
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #16 16 Nov 2021 19:01
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In reply to Post #15
Getting that close to the beasts you caught is plenty close enough thanks
ip100 ip100
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Post #17 16 Nov 2021 19:20
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Wimp
mistercarp
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Post #18 16 Nov 2021 19:24
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In reply to Post #8
Thanks for that insight Tom! So nylon is more robust/durable than aquatexx? I will always dry out a bivvy after it's been wet, but it's good to know.
mistercarp
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Post #19 16 Nov 2021 19:26
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In reply to Post #11
Yes, absolutely true. I don't think you can eradicate condensation fully. Some nights are just very humid (like you can see on your car windows in the morning, without any rain).
mistercarp
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Post #20 16 Nov 2021 19:27
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In reply to Post #13
Sorry, but i had an Titan T1 that i sold due to random cracks appearing in the bivvy bag (that is the same material as the bivvy) after only lying in a heated storage for half a year. So, Nash isn't going to get my money anymore for bivvy's.
bluebeat13
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Post #21 16 Nov 2021 21:00
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In reply to Post #18
As with every choice it's subjective, but since nylon shelters came about I do not understand why you would choose Aquatexx or the other similar variations.

Were nylon the expensive material and Aquatexx the budget and they were marketed as such which would people choose?

Nylon

- lightweight
- allows more light through for a brighter shelter with natural light
- zero maintenance required
- drys quickly, can be packed away wet.
- hard wearing
- seams can be fused rather than glued


Aquatexx

- Heavy
- Dark when inside during daylight hours
- you may feel the need to coat in an expensive liquid each year.
- will fade significantly if used frequently, may change colour completely
- takes a long time to dry
- will deteriorate to point of mould if left packed away wet.
- reports of de-lamination and pitting issues
- Really heavy

woody71
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Post #22 16 Nov 2021 21:50
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I have had a few nylon and aquatex shelters on the aqua 60" brollies when they were made in the uk my aquatex one was slightly lighter than the nylon version and after packing the nylon one away wet that one completely delaminated and so did my nylon winter skin for my original armo.

I think all shelters should be dried out after use and think its a bad idea to pack any away wet.

The aquatex shelters are a bit darker on the inside and do take longer to dry out but dont suffer expansion and contraction issues in the weather like the nylon ones do.

The aqua shelters i have had and still own both nylon and aquatex both are quite good with condensation i think the aquatex is slightly better.

A comparison i can give between different makes is when i first got my original aqua armo it was october and was on my second night a friend turned up for the second night fished in next swim with his fox evo by the morning his bivvy was dripping with condensation yet for the second night running i had none in mine??

My nash titan viper which the armo replaced was terrible for condensation, there are some conditions when all my aqua bivvies have had condensation but i genuinely believe not as bad as other makes
bigclanger bigclanger
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Post #23 16 Nov 2021 22:10
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The Chinese Aquatex isn't a patch on the original British made stuff !!
woody71
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Post #24 16 Nov 2021 22:18
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That might be why i have had found it very good, even the m3 i still have was an early uk one without the rear vents
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #25 17 Nov 2021 03:27
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Anyone that thinks packing a nylon bivvy away wet wont do it any harm is mistaken and completely wrong !!!

I loaned a friend my spare nylon bivvy he failed to tell me it had rained when he packed it up as it was a spare when he returned it I just put it in the loft months later it had completely delaminated inside it was like a used durex hanging down
Aquatex type materials every time for me its a fact that all my nylon shelters have been worse for condensation

Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #26 17 Nov 2021 06:34
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In reply to Post #6
I've been under a profile without ground sheet and it's suffered condensation, over wraps help, I tend to have a small candle burning seems to help but then I blow it out before I sleep and wake up with condensation. Inner capsules tend to keep the condensation to the outer skin.

I carry a towel to wipe the inside down.
Zack
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Post #27 17 Nov 2021 09:23
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In reply to Post #26
Burning a candle and then blowing it out will not help with the issue but make it worse. A flame produces water, so after you have blown the candle out, all the moisture in the air will condense on the cooler surface of the Bivvy. The only way to avoid it is to keep the candle burning all night to keep the air temperature up in the Bivvy. Or keep the door open.

Regarding which dries the faster, my aquatex Armo mk 1 dries far faster than my nylon bevvies. Simply because the water beads on my nylon Bivvy but the aquatex Bivvy, the water does not bead but the material just gets wet. A slight breeze or the sun shining and the aquatex dries rapidly. The only way to speed up the nylon drying is to keep towelling it to break up the beading water. But, if I water proof the aquatex overwrap, then it too becomes a pain with water beading and I have to towel that dry too if I'm in a rush.

Putting away a wet nylon Bivvy is a no no. The nylon only has a polyurethane backing and will easily delaminate and start peeling and left too long, black mouldy manky spots will appear.
bluebeat13
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Post #28 17 Nov 2021 09:31
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In reply to Post #25
I obviously wouldn't put a wet brolly in the loft for months

I usually fish one night a week. I live in a one bed flat on the 4th floor. If the Brolly is wet when I pack up it's staying in the bag until next week as I have nowhere to dry it. Quite often by the next week the Brolly is pretty much dry, the water just leaking out the bag. Never had any problems.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #29 17 Nov 2021 09:42
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if you have to pack up any shelter in the rain
and its that time of the year when its raining for days on end so you cant dry it out in the garden
I simply partially open it up and stand it in the bath/shower room overnight when I get home especially in winter its always dry by the morning
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #30 17 Nov 2021 14:12
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I like to take the metal work out of my bivvy,I then hang it on a big clothes maid.I put this near a radiator,once it is nice and dry I give it a quick iron before reassembling and packing away neatly.
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