In reply to Post #15
I wouldn't say it was heavy weight wise but it's well made heavy duty material and bulkier than say the Highlander Tempest that I also have
I wouldn't say it was heavy weight wise but it's well made heavy duty material and bulkier than say the Highlander Tempest that I also have
My German Flectarn used for many many years metal detecting and fishing never let me down
jacket label 56/58 =EXTRA LARGE plus mine is EXTRA LONG great for extra protection !
TROUSER LABEL extra large = 56/58
jacket label 56/58 =EXTRA LARGE plus mine is EXTRA LONG great for extra protection !
TROUSER LABEL extra large = 56/58
In reply to Post #17
Looks good Gerry. I'd imagine the quality is equal to the US made ECWCS stuff. I'll see what I can find.
Looks good Gerry. I'd imagine the quality is equal to the US made ECWCS stuff. I'll see what I can find.
In reply to Post #18
YES I agree
to me for longevity the secret is to regularly WASH all waterproofs
BUT only with Wilko pure soap in the washing machine
dirt blocking the pores of the fibres stops the beading
every year I wash it with one of the many wash and proof like grangers wash and repel always 100% waterproof and very breathable I have metal detected walking all day for 12 hours where its been showers on and off all day and in the middle of a 250 acre field there is no were to hide never got clammy or wet and owned it for many years
YES I agree
to me for longevity the secret is to regularly WASH all waterproofs
BUT only with Wilko pure soap in the washing machine
dirt blocking the pores of the fibres stops the beading
every year I wash it with one of the many wash and proof like grangers wash and repel always 100% waterproof and very breathable I have metal detected walking all day for 12 hours where its been showers on and off all day and in the middle of a 250 acre field there is no were to hide never got clammy or wet and owned it for many years
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363278600334?hash=item549517888e:g:OjQAAOSwM2ZgF6vF
That's a brand new Gen 1 Tennessee Apparel made size XL from France. The same seller has other sizes too, 'mint' used Tennier Industries made Gen 1 jackets. He even has one woodland camo pattern. The sizings are very standard to our own in the UK. You will be able to get exact sizings/measurements from the sellers. Any of the prices shown on fleabay from abroad will now also have added import tax when you go to buy it.
I got a Gen 3 from the States a couple of months ago, brand new. They do come up, they are very expensive jackets which are issued by the military.... You can buy them from source, but they cost a fortune. You will always get soldiers 'acquiring' an extra jacket and selling them on fleabay cheaper. Often these will be marked as 'used' as they will have no labels on.... But in reality have never even been worn. If you look at the sellers other items in that link I posted. You will see that the Tennier used jackets are only £10 more than the brand new ones. These will be brand new without tags, they might have a soldiers name in them but are essentially brand new you will find. They are acquired just to sell on because there is a good market for them. There is a good market for them, because they are amazing jackets. The only difference between Gen 1/2/3 is style of jacket. The Gore-Tex is all the same standard. They are the most copied jacket in the world by far. I have the Gen 2 woodland trousers too. You could lay down in a puddle and still be dry.
The Gen 3 is pukka, it's a much much lighter jacket. Just the shell, no lining etc. I much prefer it to my Gen 2 now, and that was the best jacket I've ever had. I only want a bare shell for fishing.... I always have a suitable jacket or mountain shirt on underneath anyway.
As an example.... This British Gore-Tex army jacket in the first photo lasted one winter before it leaked like a sieve. The Gen 2 US army jacket in the second photo is now eight winters old. It has seen some serious winter usage. It's still totally waterproof.
That's a brand new Gen 1 Tennessee Apparel made size XL from France. The same seller has other sizes too, 'mint' used Tennier Industries made Gen 1 jackets. He even has one woodland camo pattern. The sizings are very standard to our own in the UK. You will be able to get exact sizings/measurements from the sellers. Any of the prices shown on fleabay from abroad will now also have added import tax when you go to buy it.
I got a Gen 3 from the States a couple of months ago, brand new. They do come up, they are very expensive jackets which are issued by the military.... You can buy them from source, but they cost a fortune. You will always get soldiers 'acquiring' an extra jacket and selling them on fleabay cheaper. Often these will be marked as 'used' as they will have no labels on.... But in reality have never even been worn. If you look at the sellers other items in that link I posted. You will see that the Tennier used jackets are only £10 more than the brand new ones. These will be brand new without tags, they might have a soldiers name in them but are essentially brand new you will find. They are acquired just to sell on because there is a good market for them. There is a good market for them, because they are amazing jackets. The only difference between Gen 1/2/3 is style of jacket. The Gore-Tex is all the same standard. They are the most copied jacket in the world by far. I have the Gen 2 woodland trousers too. You could lay down in a puddle and still be dry.
The Gen 3 is pukka, it's a much much lighter jacket. Just the shell, no lining etc. I much prefer it to my Gen 2 now, and that was the best jacket I've ever had. I only want a bare shell for fishing.... I always have a suitable jacket or mountain shirt on underneath anyway.
As an example.... This British Gore-Tex army jacket in the first photo lasted one winter before it leaked like a sieve. The Gen 2 US army jacket in the second photo is now eight winters old. It has seen some serious winter usage. It's still totally waterproof.
In reply to Post #19
Cheers Gerry👍
Cheers Gerry👍
In reply to Post #20
Great info cheers. So the is the Tennessee parka I linked earlier on eBay the same as that one you have listed, but just different camo pattern? I've no clue about the different generations, but from what you have said if a gen 3 is just a top quality waterproof shell without lining then that would probably suit me best. I'm a sweaty guy at the best of times and I'd want option to wear it over insulated jacket as required.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224399598873?hash=item343f422519%3Ag%3A%7EFMAAOSw3FZgXIbQ&LH_ItemCondition=3
Great info cheers. So the is the Tennessee parka I linked earlier on eBay the same as that one you have listed, but just different camo pattern? I've no clue about the different generations, but from what you have said if a gen 3 is just a top quality waterproof shell without lining then that would probably suit me best. I'm a sweaty guy at the best of times and I'd want option to wear it over insulated jacket as required.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224399598873?hash=item343f422519%3Ag%3A%7EFMAAOSw3FZgXIbQ&LH_ItemCondition=3
In reply to Post #22
Yes mate, same jacket different patterns. Don't hesitate, just buy it... Or someone else will!
I actually think my woodland camo jacket in the second photo is actually a Gen 1, not Gen 2. Same as the link you just posted. Same as Chuffy's jacket.
You will wear a Snugpak etc under both very easily. It's only a very thin nylon lining. The actual material on the Gen1/2 is alot thicker/heavier than on the Gen 3.
Watch this survival/hunting video. It compares the Gen 1 & 3. It will show you all you need to know I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWmTgud0DY
Yes mate, same jacket different patterns. Don't hesitate, just buy it... Or someone else will!
I actually think my woodland camo jacket in the second photo is actually a Gen 1, not Gen 2. Same as the link you just posted. Same as Chuffy's jacket.
You will wear a Snugpak etc under both very easily. It's only a very thin nylon lining. The actual material on the Gen1/2 is alot thicker/heavier than on the Gen 3.
Watch this survival/hunting video. It compares the Gen 1 & 3. It will show you all you need to know I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWmTgud0DY
In reply to Post #22
As far as I am aware with the Gen II they introduced the armpit zips
As far as I am aware with the Gen II they introduced the armpit zips
In reply to Post #24
Ahhhhh mine was the Gen 2 then.
The Gen 3 does not have the underarm zips. Thanks Chuffy that has answered a question I had been wondering about.
Ahhhhh mine was the Gen 2 then.
The Gen 3 does not have the underarm zips. Thanks Chuffy that has answered a question I had been wondering about.
In reply to Post #20
A really interesting thread - thanks guys.
I've found a couple of US issue Gen 3 goretex jackets in digital goretex being sold on eBay. I'm after just a shell - so the Gen 3 sounds like the one to go for.
They are made by ‘Propper Ind' and ‘Tullahoma' respectively. Are those manufacturers decent ? Presumably if they are genuine US Issue, then they should be fine.
Any thoughts much appreciated....
Apologies for the inability to post a link; old age, senility etc etc.
A really interesting thread - thanks guys.
I've found a couple of US issue Gen 3 goretex jackets in digital goretex being sold on eBay. I'm after just a shell - so the Gen 3 sounds like the one to go for.
They are made by ‘Propper Ind' and ‘Tullahoma' respectively. Are those manufacturers decent ? Presumably if they are genuine US Issue, then they should be fine.
Any thoughts much appreciated....
Apologies for the inability to post a link; old age, senility etc etc.
In reply to Post #26
Yes mate I have seen them ones you mean. They are real.
A bargain too in mint condition.
That's exactly the same jacket that I have just imported from the states, just a different manufacturer & pattern.
Yes mate I have seen them ones you mean. They are real.
A bargain too in mint condition.
That's exactly the same jacket that I have just imported from the states, just a different manufacturer & pattern.
In reply to Post #26
Have you found a UK supplier for the Gen 3 or are they in the US?
Have you found a UK supplier for the Gen 3 or are they in the US?
In reply to Post #28
He found a UK supplier. Free two day postage. But they are not brand new. They are listed as 'used'... 'mint'. Also they only have mediums and larges. Earlier your link was an XL.
Like I said below that will likely be brand new with no tags... Army supplies are not stored like shop goods... So it makes them hard to sell as brand new.
Give them a wash... They are essentially brand new.
He found a UK supplier. Free two day postage. But they are not brand new. They are listed as 'used'... 'mint'. Also they only have mediums and larges. Earlier your link was an XL.
Like I said below that will likely be brand new with no tags... Army supplies are not stored like shop goods... So it makes them hard to sell as brand new.
Give them a wash... They are essentially brand new.
In reply to Post #29
Yeah reckon I'd probably need an XL. I guess it depends on the fit and whether they come up large for their size. American sizing is often big.
Yeah reckon I'd probably need an XL. I guess it depends on the fit and whether they come up large for their size. American sizing is often big.