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Best bedchair / sleep system - firm for a bad back (35 posts / 5,042 views)
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #16 28 Jul 2021 23:02
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In reply to Post #13
AS posted below if your a side sleeper you dont want a firm bed it will be unconfutable !

but normally people with bad backs sleep on their back as flat as possible that helps stop the back ache so need a really firm bed
LittleLinford LittleLinford
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Post #17 29 Jul 2021 07:59
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I used to have a prolapsed disc & bad sciatica and the best bed I found was the Fox Flatliter system nice and firm.
As the guys say sleep flat on your back is better for you.....unfortunately I had a Spinal Cord Injury (CES) 2yrs ago so now I am partially paralyzed waist down with only 15% feeling but can still walk with a stick so I now have a Nash SS4 Wideboy
zinno
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Post #18 29 Jul 2021 11:28
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Due to a work accident and 3 back surgeries I have a very bad back but I am also a 100% side sleeper, the Solar Sp bed is top build quality but i could not lie on my side on the 3D matrass (solar ch08 felt abit better: 2D matrass ) the high density foam mattress of the Trakker oval levelite feels so good for me even when I lay on my back
strawberryblond
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Post #19 29 Jul 2021 11:28
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In reply to Post #12
It does attach via the hoods on either end and a strap, but with the sleeve only at the head end
As the sleeves are rarer than hens teeth, you'd be lucky to get hold of one.
ip100 ip100
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Post #20 29 Jul 2021 12:18
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I've said many times here, beds are very personal. What is comfy for one person will be awful for another. I have back probs and for me the Nash ss3 is perfect, but for some reason you've said that you don't want those. You really need to go and see some in the flesh for yourself to see what's right for you
Notts485
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Post #21 30 Jul 2021 22:34
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In reply to Post #15
Lol let me get this right. You are cutting off the suspension cords and using cable tyes to make it firmer. Have I hit a time warp here. The elastic is there to make it comfortable why on earth would you remove it. If it's not firm enough retye it.
reubenmills reubenmills
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Post #22 31 Jul 2021 11:42
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In reply to Post #21
I'm presuming the same reason people use paracord instead of elastic. To eliminate the stretch and therefore sag.
reubenmills reubenmills
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Post #23 31 Jul 2021 11:44
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In reply to Post #20
Thanks, unfortunately have no good tackle shops around here that sell any bedchairs let alone one that has a large selection to try out! ( near Brighton, Sussex) I'll maybe see if I can borrow my mates avid and see how that feels.
Thanks
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #24 31 Jul 2021 11:52
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In reply to Post #21
Because most people with a bad back want the firmest bed possible thats why orthopedic beds are so firm

for years the Nash indulgence beds were to me the height of comfort until I started getting back ache after 2 or. 3 nights on them and realised I had a bad back eventually I bought a ELS flat bed and did 21 night session in France with zero problems
Cazfish Cazfish
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Post #25 31 Jul 2021 11:54
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In reply to Post #22
Swapping paracord for elastics on a bed isn't a great idea. It just makes the mattress work harder and stretch more and in turn causes it to sag. Which defeats the object of swapping the elastics out in the first place. Far better if you replace existing elastics with thicker ones
reubenmills reubenmills
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Post #26 31 Jul 2021 16:29
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In reply to Post #25
I didn't, I swapped elastic for paracord. Something countless people have recommended.
Cazfish Cazfish
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Post #27 31 Jul 2021 18:45
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In reply to Post #26
Sorry it's what I meant elastic for paracord . Reason I said it was I did the same with the original levelite bed and it totally ****ed up the mattress and the sag was worse than when it had elastic
ip100 ip100
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Post #28 1 Aug 2021 12:00
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In reply to Post #25
I did it on my old Nash ss after a year or so, and that bed lasted me another 7or 8 years before I replaced it. It doesn't do any harm to them at all
Zack
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Post #29 1 Aug 2021 12:26
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The most comfortable bed that I have is my US army cot when I have a bad back with laying on my usual fishing bed and I have 3 of them as they are that good and I prefer them over these fishing tackle manufactures beds. The cover is perfectly flat and tight as the skin on a drum and I'm always guaranteed a good night sleep.

The only reason I do not use them often is the legs are not adjustable so I usually have to take a few pieces of sawn planking to level it off. In the long Winter months, I use the "cots" all the time as I'm guaranteed a good nights sleep with no aches or pains.

One of the big problems I find with the usual bed is, its in 3 sections, head, middle and leg end. Somehow you have to get them all in harmony, and its not just a case of getting the bed level, you can find the head end and leg end sags more than the middle and then that puts strain on your back or the middle could sag more or the leg end sag more. When things are not right, I can get back pains or knee pains or even pains in my shoulders.

One of my earlier beds, I was able to crisscross para cord across the frame underneath the mattress from one end to the other and I got a very firm mattress with barely any sag. Sadly my last two beds, the design stops me doing it for the middle section.

Last year, I did plan out, covering my bed with 3 sections of plywood cut to shape and held to the frame with 22mm pipe clips and then a self inflating mattress so I could easily remove the sections of ply for transporting if I ever needed to.

This is a similar setup to the bed I made for my car, 6' length of ply, rests on the internal wheel arch in the boot and a small wooden pedestal at the opposite side and at the head end, it rests on my car seat (with some padding to protect it) folded forward and covered with a SIM it is very comfortable for a nights sleep so it should be no different on the frame of a fishing bed.
audiguypaul audiguypaul
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Post #30 1 Aug 2021 17:03
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In reply to Post #29
My 2 pence worth, re bad backs I've had 3 lots of spinal surgery ending up with metal work and a fusion. I had an Avid Restbite X which i found comfortable but so heavy it hurt my back lugging it about.
I've ended up with the Wychwood tactical x, had the older version before, and a 10cm Exped Megamat self inflating mattress with a snugpak fortis bag, both will fold up in the bed. I'm a side sleeper and this combination is very comfortable as the mattress can be adjusted to get just the right firmness.
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