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Benefits of self roll vs bait company (33 posts / 2,586 views)
dickweed dickweed
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Post #16 25 Jul 2021 22:16
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I have it for breakfast washed down with fresh prune juice.

Erik1926
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Post #17 26 Jul 2021 18:32
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Thanks for the opinions! Loving the omelette suggestion. Must be a big lad tucking 6 eggs away! Fair play
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #18 28 Jul 2021 00:13
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In reply to Post #1
I'd say it depends how much you intend to use. I used to hand roll a 6 egg mix for a weekly day only session, didn't mind. Then I started fishing much more and used a lot more bait. You'll soon get fed up hand gunning say 20kg even with a multi nozzle on the gun, never mind mixing it. There's a art to gauging how stiff a mix will be depending on when it was mixed and what it contains and learning that can be VERY frustrating.

Get any ideas of saving money right out of your head, your still paying with your time.

Having said that it is fun, you can be unique and if your lucky you might find a edge, if you believe in them.
Blonde_Tim Blonde_Tim
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Post #19 28 Jul 2021 08:58
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In reply to Post #1
Ive just bought some base mix and flavours to make my own.

Benefits (reasons) ive decided too:
- much softer baits (Where I'm fishing is all catapult range)
- control over flavour levels, much subtler bait
- freshness, i only use relatively small amounts so can roll fresh without having to freeze
- most people are using red fishmeal/nut mix baits and this base mi is completely different to those, but not available ready rolled
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #20 28 Jul 2021 15:00
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In reply to Post #19
I bet it ‘tastes' good
dickweed dickweed
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Post #21 28 Jul 2021 15:54
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What has made it easy for me is to make notes on the first few initial mixes in terms of getting the dough right for gunning and rolling.

Ie

6 large eggs ( I use the same brand for consistency of volume)

650 grams base mix

2 hours dough rest in fridge

1 hour to a room temp.

This takes all the guess work out of it and makes the process much easier and a joy.
clover clover
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Post #22 28 Jul 2021 16:05
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In reply to Post #21
Now list the negatives..

Baits unproven, will have you doubting it after a few blanks and binning it if they continue.
Messy to make
Time consuming to make.
House stinks.
Batches often go wrong if you dont know what your doing.
The carp may hate your genius ideas for ingredients.

vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #23 28 Jul 2021 16:20
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In reply to Post #21
6 large eggs ( I use the same brand for consistency of volume)

Got to say that did make me laugh...who told the chickens

dickweed dickweed
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Post #24 28 Jul 2021 17:41
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In reply to Post #22
How many blanks do you have before you bin a shop purchased bait ?
ip100 ip100
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Post #25 28 Jul 2021 18:15
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In reply to Post #22
Same could be said for any bait , especially given most seem to think the reason they blank is because of bait when infact it rarely is.
Not actually messy at all if you work sensibly,and not particularly time consuming once you get the hang of it.
House stinking, yeah I'll give you that one
Batches don't often go wrong if you learn from your mistakes
And yes the carp may not like your baits. But they could like them more than a shop bought.....
Defiant.one Defiant.one
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Post #26 28 Jul 2021 19:14
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In reply to Post #25
There's also the other massive advantage of home rolling – no profit margin to worry about, there's nothing holding you back on using high quality ingredients
dickweed dickweed
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Post #27 28 Jul 2021 20:17
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In reply to Post #26
I hear from quite a few folks that they do not have time to roll bait.

Most of them clock up plenty of hours on carpy social media stuff weekly.
lurchy lurchy
Posts: 1,205
Post #28 28 Jul 2021 22:12
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In reply to Post #27
Made my own for donkeys years , then started buying a ready made base mix and just rolling my own as and when , joined a new syndicate and found myself in garage 2-3 hrs a week rolling baits as was getting thru kilos of it....compressor , tables etc etc....
Did some working out , included everything in the bait ,including additives , eggs etc, little bit for gas and electric worked out at £5 something a kilo ......
Now I just buy a good quality ready rolled frozen bait £6 a kilo and I'm not in the garage 2-3 hrs a week or getting it in the ear off the mrs for stinking the house out 😂😂
Andydave
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Post #29 28 Jul 2021 22:16
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In reply to Post #1
The thing is with rolling your own is, in general most people arent bait buffs, so its trial and error, most of the time it ends in error. Obviously you know what goes in it, but that doesn't equate to a better bait
christian
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Post #30 28 Jul 2021 22:57
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In reply to Post #29
Nobody is an expert when they start, and yes you will have some disasters along the way but you learn and they get fewer as your experience grows.

On some waters in some situations bait matters, not always but often enough and besides experimenting with different ideas is fun and catching on your own bait adds to the overall enjoyment of carp fishing.
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