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Hook file (41 posts / 2,912 views)
cornish-carper cornish-carper
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Post #16 18 Jul 2021 16:40
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At the end of the day it comes down to the angler you always get someone who pushes the boundaries, you do need to know when to stop when sharpening.
NeilH2320
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Post #17 18 Jul 2021 16:47
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😂😂
NeilH2320
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Post #18 18 Jul 2021 16:48
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Very true
duggs
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Post #19 18 Jul 2021 19:11
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It isn't really a case of not strong enough, some are just badly tempered and brittle

Found it happening a lot with the fox edges hooks so stopped using them
NeilH2320
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Post #20 18 Jul 2021 20:02
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Not strong enough, but some are just badly tempered and brittle?

That means that filing the hooks HAS actually weakened them, then, surely? Or, are you saying something else?

I've seen it happening too many times, and I can't go fishing as much as I used to
duggs
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Post #21 18 Jul 2021 21:49
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The hooks mentioned were used straight out the packet

I haven't had it with the gardner and atomic hooks I sharpen
NeilH2320
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Post #22 18 Jul 2021 21:58
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Ah right. Sorry, I see what you mean now.

I've never used atomic hooks, so can't comment. But, Gardner are excellent hooks. I'm surprised you sharpen them actually, because I've always found them to be sticky sharp straight from the packet.
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #23 19 Jul 2021 06:14
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I use shatpened hooks and have never seen it happen. Loads of other people use sharpened hooks and havr never seen it happen.

You dont use sharpened hooks, but loads of people who have have had it happen whilst you were fishing close by and they have shown you?

What are the chances
duggs
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Post #24 19 Jul 2021 06:45
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I thought that too, but looking at them up close doing some photos for the sharpened hooks thread on here, quite a few have blobs of coating at the point. It's probably unfair of me to single gardner out as I expect it happens with all brands, I've just taken more shots of gardner hooks than others.
All hooks get a tickle with a point doctor at the very least now
yonny yonny
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Post #25 19 Jul 2021 07:38
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Likewise, been using sharpened hooks for maybe 15 years and can't recall seeing a tip snap off. As Duggs mentioned, there'd have to be a problem with the heat treatment for a hook to be brittle enough to snap at the tip. Under normal circumstances the hook would just bend as yield strength is exceeded. It can snap at the bend (where yield strength is already exceeded during metal forming) if force is loaded on the hook improperly i.e. a crappy hook hold, but I'd consider it v unusual for a tip to snap off.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #26 19 Jul 2021 08:15
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Careful now, when he left the monofilament gig he ran gamakatsu for a spell
frothey frothey
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Post #27 19 Jul 2021 08:19
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I always thought most of the fishing mono manufacturing was either in Germany or the US?
noj
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Social photographer... Post #28 19 Jul 2021 08:37
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Or Japan.
We might make strimmer line?
Tinhead Tinhead
Posts: 17,089
Post #29 19 Jul 2021 12:57
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I use strimmer line. I can cast 190+ yards with a pva bag with it. Never had a crack off
Zack
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Post #30 19 Jul 2021 19:36
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>>>>>I use strimmer line. I can cast 190+ yards with a pva bag with it. Never had a crack off<<<<<

Your pushing your luck their, I use a leader made from polypropylene 300kg breaking strain washing line, with an intermediate section of 4mm 550lb BS type 3 para cord, the real stuff, not the imitation para cord made from perlon that everyone uses in the belief it is para cord, to make it a bit more tapered and streamlined tied to satellite cable to sink fast and pin itself to the bottom.

The only drawback was I had to modify my rod to have 50mm rings all the way to the tip to allow the knots to pass through.

Its ideal for margin fishing, last week when I got snagged up, instead of losing my rig, I dragged an old motorbike frame out that must have been dumped in the margin. Week before, it looked like the bonnet from a mini, and the week before that, a broken wheelbarrow from a work party.

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