In reply to Post #15
That's just the way it is. No different to fishing Rainbow I would say. If I only fished flat bottomed pits which are deemed safe I would prob give it all up.
That's just the way it is. No different to fishing Rainbow I would say. If I only fished flat bottomed pits which are deemed safe I would prob give it all up.
In reply to Post #16
Well you can still fish the same stretch of river but maybe find another spot to fish that's not 250 yards across a river on the opposite bank near snags. Surely you can fish another spot in the big chunk of water you have in front of you. That can't be the only bit they reside in.
The only other thing I could think of is fishing a beefed up version of the washing line clip method but with something that will snap when you come into full contact with a fish leaving you clear
Well you can still fish the same stretch of river but maybe find another spot to fish that's not 250 yards across a river on the opposite bank near snags. Surely you can fish another spot in the big chunk of water you have in front of you. That can't be the only bit they reside in.
The only other thing I could think of is fishing a beefed up version of the washing line clip method but with something that will snap when you come into full contact with a fish leaving you clear
In reply to Post #16
Hi Paul,
How big are the fish you're trying to catch?
And you might be comparing apples and oranges when you're comparing what you're up to to rainbow or the European inland seas
Best
Jon
Hi Paul,
How big are the fish you're trying to catch?
And you might be comparing apples and oranges when you're comparing what you're up to to rainbow or the European inland seas
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #16
Boat with a shelter on it and tie yourself safely to said snags?
Boat with a shelter on it and tie yourself safely to said snags?
In reply to Post #16
Rainbow is a tough proposition by all accounts, I've never fished it. There is however a lot of info on the bottom and the snags and the depth profiles and many good anglers have developed effective and fairly fish safe techniques to hook and land fish.
What you describe is on another level altogether. A barrage is a flooded river valley usually and nobody bothers to clear trees, brush, buildings, boulders or any other future snags, they dam it, flood it and use the water.
You might not be getting indication because the line is snagged a hundred yard from the fish before the bait is taken. If you have any concern for fish safety and are determined to fish this water I think you should spend however long is needed to properly survey the place. It may be unfishable. Only my humble opinion.
Rainbow is a tough proposition by all accounts, I've never fished it. There is however a lot of info on the bottom and the snags and the depth profiles and many good anglers have developed effective and fairly fish safe techniques to hook and land fish.
What you describe is on another level altogether. A barrage is a flooded river valley usually and nobody bothers to clear trees, brush, buildings, boulders or any other future snags, they dam it, flood it and use the water.
You might not be getting indication because the line is snagged a hundred yard from the fish before the bait is taken. If you have any concern for fish safety and are determined to fish this water I think you should spend however long is needed to properly survey the place. It may be unfishable. Only my humble opinion.
In reply to Post #16
at rainbow people use all variety of ways to keep their mainline off the bottom and out of the way of underwater snags. Have you considered using floats to keep your line on the surface? They can be fashioned out of drinks bottles, or there are some commercially available options I believe (I'm far from an expert in this style of fishing)
at rainbow people use all variety of ways to keep their mainline off the bottom and out of the way of underwater snags. Have you considered using floats to keep your line on the surface? They can be fashioned out of drinks bottles, or there are some commercially available options I believe (I'm far from an expert in this style of fishing)
In reply to Post #18
Hi Jon,
I have had them to upper 40 but also put back a mid 50 common that I had caught on a trailer! I would think that there are fish to around 60lb.
Saying about it's not fishable....... it is. It drops down very quickly to its depths. Fishing your own side lays your line down the slopes although a float may cure this too be fair however with the amount of predator anglers and their boats about it may prove difficult.
Terrain....... yes it's a flooded valley. Tree stumps, boulders, fallen trees are all present. When I say I fish 250 yards that would not be up against a fallen tree etc. It's more about depths. We are not silly and neither of us have lost a fish that we have hooked and fought. We have just had bites in the night that haven't registered on the alarms and rigs been dropped.
Lots of boat work with the Raymarine tells us what's out there.
Hi Jon,
I have had them to upper 40 but also put back a mid 50 common that I had caught on a trailer! I would think that there are fish to around 60lb.
Saying about it's not fishable....... it is. It drops down very quickly to its depths. Fishing your own side lays your line down the slopes although a float may cure this too be fair however with the amount of predator anglers and their boats about it may prove difficult.
Terrain....... yes it's a flooded valley. Tree stumps, boulders, fallen trees are all present. When I say I fish 250 yards that would not be up against a fallen tree etc. It's more about depths. We are not silly and neither of us have lost a fish that we have hooked and fought. We have just had bites in the night that haven't registered on the alarms and rigs been dropped.
Lots of boat work with the Raymarine tells us what's out there.
In reply to Post #22
Hi Paul
This just from my personal experiences
Firstly I've not come across nor do I know of any braid that offers better bite indication at range than any other, so I don't think that's the answer.
For me it's all about weight. There's absolutely no need for lead when boating out, i used to drill out stones and glue in half a swivel which would be attached to a "fixed" lead clip system, typically these would be 7-9 oz. These would drop on the take.
I know they aren't "fashionable", but for me the best indicators for fishing at range are the fox euro swingers. Very easy to use and very easy to add weight to depending on conditions.
Lastly, you know because you're doing it, this style of fishing doesn't produce screaming runs, they are usually quick finiky bites. If it's only happening at night your probably sleeping through most of the event. Alarms and receiver on full volume for me
Hope it helps
Best
Jon
Hi Paul
This just from my personal experiences
Firstly I've not come across nor do I know of any braid that offers better bite indication at range than any other, so I don't think that's the answer.
For me it's all about weight. There's absolutely no need for lead when boating out, i used to drill out stones and glue in half a swivel which would be attached to a "fixed" lead clip system, typically these would be 7-9 oz. These would drop on the take.
I know they aren't "fashionable", but for me the best indicators for fishing at range are the fox euro swingers. Very easy to use and very easy to add weight to depending on conditions.
Lastly, you know because you're doing it, this style of fishing doesn't produce screaming runs, they are usually quick finiky bites. If it's only happening at night your probably sleeping through most of the event. Alarms and receiver on full volume for me
Hope it helps
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #23
Hi Jon,
Thank you for your reply. More weight sounds like the best way to go. I know what you mean about the funny bites and I bet your right in what you say about missing what's going on while sleeping! We have our alarms up full but the receivers are hit and miss in the mountains, something to do with the frequency I was told??
I will look into the swingers suggested. Many thanks for your thoughts and help.
Paul.
Hi Jon,
Thank you for your reply. More weight sounds like the best way to go. I know what you mean about the funny bites and I bet your right in what you say about missing what's going on while sleeping! We have our alarms up full but the receivers are hit and miss in the mountains, something to do with the frequency I was told??
I will look into the swingers suggested. Many thanks for your thoughts and help.
Paul.
In reply to Post #24
Jon is right, the Fox Euro swinger is probably the best indicator out there. You will be able to load one up with its spring system, very effective in the situation you describe.
Jon is right, the Fox Euro swinger is probably the best indicator out there. You will be able to load one up with its spring system, very effective in the situation you describe.