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Solid PVA Bag Stems (24 posts / 8,323 views)
Notts485
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Post #16 12 Jun 2022 10:33
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In reply to Post #15
Use lead core for stems. Remove the core and save. Tie a swivel on one end and do a splice on the other. Thread it through the lead leavening the insert in. Attach loop to loop and near the top of the loop coil your lead core insert and cover with dark matter. Lead wise I use avid flat pear in 3 oz.
RigDemon RigDemon
Posts: 1,458
Post #17 12 Jun 2022 10:34
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In reply to Post #15
Always have done and always will, there isn't a stem on the market that I like.

Hate the metal looped ones, the ones with a mono loop I don't have any confidence in and I don't think any of them do a quick link swivel, might be wrong?

NGT leads are about a tenner for ten delivered from ebay and the tail rubbers I used are here, but any will do. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153830162621



Richpp1989 Richpp1989
Posts: 2,078
Post #18 12 Jun 2022 14:18
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The Gemini ones are the best on the market by a long way in my opinion, I've had some avid one break on me but never ever had a Gemini one fail or break from fishing under the rod tips to upto 100yards with a solid bag, I bought 2 packs (10 stems) about 2 years ago and I'm still on the same one now
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
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Post #19 12 Jun 2022 14:18
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In reply to Post #17
Gemini and avid do quick link ones mate
HarrisonCarp HarrisonCarp
Posts: 387
Post #20 12 Jun 2022 20:05
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2nd this.....I used the Avid QD Stems and they works great.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #21 12 Jun 2022 23:35
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In reply to Post #18
I like the gemini stems if not fishing drop offs as they connect neatly with tubing set ups etc. Generally tie any new premade bags on with a palomar (if using tubing) but you need to be careful when snipping the old mainline knot as the fluro loop on the stem can get nicked / exposed if you're not careful . . .
Baitman Baitman
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Post #22 13 Jun 2022 00:41
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Are PVA bag stems just mini leaders for the convenience of quickly redoing a pva bag.

I'd have though some clubs with leader bans would take exception to their use
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #23 13 Jun 2022 13:20
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In reply to Post #22
They are in effect mini leaders - although you could argue a gemini stem which is a 3inch section of flurocarbon with fused loops and a silicone sleeve (rather than a short length of leadcore) in combination with a 2-3inch braided section is not really that different to a stiff/combi rig presentation - ie in the event of a mainline breakage a hooked fish is trailing a combi rig . . .
Busted
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Post #24 13 Jun 2022 13:46
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In reply to Post #19
I've mentioned it a few times before but I've had several of the avid stems break at the swivel (from 2 different packs bought from different shops about 6 months apart so i dont think it was a bad batch) so I'd be wary of the avid product
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