In reply to Post #15
Now im confused, didn't expect some of these reactions. So are we saying Essential is a better bait company than bait works? I really want to get this right and not be switching.
Been on Cell for 10 years so need to make the right choice
Now im confused, didn't expect some of these reactions. So are we saying Essential is a better bait company than bait works? I really want to get this right and not be switching.
Been on Cell for 10 years so need to make the right choice
In reply to Post #16
and PS
Im talking about boillies not pop ups.
and PS
Im talking about boillies not pop ups.
In reply to Post #12
Baitworks have always got their pop ups wrong, which is surprising considering the quality of their boiled baits. The corkdust ones have always been rubbish, not that buoyant and smelling of soggy Cork within 24 hours. Their pop packs are not ideal as the paste they supply is standard paste, not hardened or sieved finely. They would be better off selling small bags of bespoke hardened, sieved hookbait basemix powder, with a small bottle of the liquids.
Baitworks have always got their pop ups wrong, which is surprising considering the quality of their boiled baits. The corkdust ones have always been rubbish, not that buoyant and smelling of soggy Cork within 24 hours. Their pop packs are not ideal as the paste they supply is standard paste, not hardened or sieved finely. They would be better off selling small bags of bespoke hardened, sieved hookbait basemix powder, with a small bottle of the liquids.
In reply to Post #1
Used Atlantic Heat shelf-life last season, it was excellent for me in all conditions.
Didn't use any of their other products.
Used Atlantic Heat shelf-life last season, it was excellent for me in all conditions.
Didn't use any of their other products.
In reply to Post #1
Bait woks...is that the chinese rip off version?
Bait woks...is that the chinese rip off version?
In reply to Post #14
Another thing to remember is that the synthetic dye used in robin red is now banned by defra in the UK so robin red now has a different dye which has changed the colour of baits. DNA S7 is another example of this that bait isn't as red as it used to be anymore. A lot of robin red based baits wont look as red anymore
Another thing to remember is that the synthetic dye used in robin red is now banned by defra in the UK so robin red now has a different dye which has changed the colour of baits. DNA S7 is another example of this that bait isn't as red as it used to be anymore. A lot of robin red based baits wont look as red anymore
In reply to Post #20
LOL
Just realised!
LOL
Just realised!
In reply to Post #22
Never had an issue with the cork ball kit. Soak the cork balls in egg white always helps
Found loads of pop ups hit and miss over the years especially if fishing chods. Cork balls and proper jobs are always reliable
Never had an issue with the cork ball kit. Soak the cork balls in egg white always helps
Found loads of pop ups hit and miss over the years especially if fishing chods. Cork balls and proper jobs are always reliable
In reply to Post #23
I found that AH softened and opened up very quickly (a few hours and then could be taken apart by silver fish. I ended up using lots of oil and other liquids to toughen them up so they would last until bite time.
Their pop ups have never been buoyant enough. Especially as I never use a hook smaller than a size 4. I end up plugging mine with foam.
I do rate their liquids especially C-Stim.
I found that AH softened and opened up very quickly (a few hours and then could be taken apart by silver fish. I ended up using lots of oil and other liquids to toughen them up so they would last until bite time.
Their pop ups have never been buoyant enough. Especially as I never use a hook smaller than a size 4. I end up plugging mine with foam.
I do rate their liquids especially C-Stim.
In reply to Post #18
That pretty much sums up their pop ups and waffters, didn't seem right from the off. Appears to be more cork than bait, dont smell or look like anything near the boilies.
I think I will sling the pots I've got as I've no confidence in any of their potted baits now.
That pretty much sums up their pop ups and waffters, didn't seem right from the off. Appears to be more cork than bait, dont smell or look like anything near the boilies.
I think I will sling the pots I've got as I've no confidence in any of their potted baits now.
In reply to Post #15
TBH mate it was mostly down to the deals they do in January. I buy 100kg at a time so it was a lot of money saved.
That said I'd done my homework on the AH and it looked good and the company had a similar vibe to Essential and it seemed to perform as good based on reports etc and in appearance it wasn't a million miles from B5.
The potted baits are shocking and I'd say to anyone dont waste your money on those. The dip is far to thick and the Hot Oil is not worth it versus any other fish oil.
The C Stim powder and liquid seems ok as does the crustacean stuff, that said you can get very similar products from other companies.
The Scent from Heaven and Hell are what they are, they catch but they are not anything out of this world.
As I've already said there's a lot of misshapes and scraps in each 5kg bag I've opened, I've seen bait being made 1st hand so I know there is no need for this, I want round baits to stick etc not odds and ends, something i never experienced with my B5.
I guess you get what you pay for, pay a little more for the quality and consistency of B5.
TBH mate it was mostly down to the deals they do in January. I buy 100kg at a time so it was a lot of money saved.
That said I'd done my homework on the AH and it looked good and the company had a similar vibe to Essential and it seemed to perform as good based on reports etc and in appearance it wasn't a million miles from B5.
The potted baits are shocking and I'd say to anyone dont waste your money on those. The dip is far to thick and the Hot Oil is not worth it versus any other fish oil.
The C Stim powder and liquid seems ok as does the crustacean stuff, that said you can get very similar products from other companies.
The Scent from Heaven and Hell are what they are, they catch but they are not anything out of this world.
As I've already said there's a lot of misshapes and scraps in each 5kg bag I've opened, I've seen bait being made 1st hand so I know there is no need for this, I want round baits to stick etc not odds and ends, something i never experienced with my B5.
I guess you get what you pay for, pay a little more for the quality and consistency of B5.
It's a great bait, definitely one of the best available. I would use it with total confidence. Also the cork ball kits are spot on, as with another user below, I soak the cork all's in egg whites and this, along with a good air Dry produces perfect pop ups....that haven't yet needed meshing.
I agree the qc isn't amazing and you get a few misshapes and, yes, the cork dust pop ups do not inspire me with confidence but overall it is a very, very good bait.
It's taking a lot longer than 2 days to get orders at the moment though....they are manically busy.
I agree the qc isn't amazing and you get a few misshapes and, yes, the cork dust pop ups do not inspire me with confidence but overall it is a very, very good bait.
It's taking a lot longer than 2 days to get orders at the moment though....they are manically busy.
In reply to Post #16
In my opinion Essential is the best in the business. I have been using BW this season due to freezer and cost issues and whilst their shelf life boilies are better (softer) than essential their balanced dumbbells are a bit naff.
Why don't BW have 12mm boilies and popups available, anyone know?
In my opinion Essential is the best in the business. I have been using BW this season due to freezer and cost issues and whilst their shelf life boilies are better (softer) than essential their balanced dumbbells are a bit naff.
Why don't BW have 12mm boilies and popups available, anyone know?
In reply to Post #28
Apparently their mix is too coarse to roll small baits.
Apparently their mix is too coarse to roll small baits.
In reply to Post #25
I sold all my AH pop ups on eBay. You might as well put them on, they will sell.
That was my thought, 90% cork dust and 10% boilie mix, they look like those coconut covered cakes.
I sold all my AH pop ups on eBay. You might as well put them on, they will sell.
That was my thought, 90% cork dust and 10% boilie mix, they look like those coconut covered cakes.