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DNA s7 (47 posts / 5,337 views)
scaley&dark
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Post #16 9 Aug 2020 13:50
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Of course it is, probably the easiest way to increase your profits, rebottle a bulk liquid, hype up the use of bait soaks or glugs.

Because they know carp anglers nearly always use double the recommended amounts

Tony59 Tony59
Posts: 1,661
Post #17 9 Aug 2020 15:28
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Exactly Rob.
The reason the pellets are so good is because they add to the amount of food - DNA S7 doesnt need the scent level boosting. I fell into the trap and bought lots of the different 'boosters' to try and improve it. S7 doesnt need boosting.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
Posts: 5,282
Post #18 9 Aug 2020 15:53
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I like coating all my baits in a liquid. I think it helps carry the lighter boilie crumb/dust to the bottom by sticking it to the bigger food items in the mix.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #19 9 Aug 2020 16:50
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But does the crumb even get to the bottom before it's destroyed by roach/rudd/perch/stone loach & co? I watched a group of perch destroying hempseed a couple of weeks ago in the edge....
bolton121
Posts: 182
Post #20 10 Aug 2020 11:06
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I'm with you on that. Again it's an example of selling to anglers based on what they see on the bank, rather than what happens in the lake. This current fad of covering your boilies in a liquid, then coating them in some sort of 'dust'. All the anglers then talk about how awesome they look etc; by the time that they've been spodded out 80 yards, crashed 6 feet through the water and hit the bottom, no chance there's any of that 'dust' left anywhere near your bait.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #21 10 Aug 2020 12:24
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I've used liquids on baits for years. I've always liked thicker gloopy liquids, my favourite used to be the original carp company aminol and the baitcraft cow cola, both sadly not available in their original form. I've always thought that a liquid dissolves in the water quite quickly, hopefully leading to a quicker bite, where as the attraction of the base mix ingredients have to breakdown to release their attraction. So you get a fast and a slower release of attraction. I do this with all my Spod mixes. I try to put in loads of different food items and sizes to try to maintain different rates of attraction. I can't see the point in just using one type of plain boilie, cos presumably it all breaks down at the same rate, it all becomes attractive and then less attractive at the same time.
duggs
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Post #22 10 Aug 2020 13:12
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I think a lot of us end up doing the same things for different reasons. I like to add water to my boilies to stop them absorbing nasty tastes in silt, where t carper advocates using water so that the baits are leaking attractors from the moment they hit the water.
I'll also add a good dose of hydrolysate to the water, partly for immediate attraction, but mostly because it sinks like a brick and will sink into the lake bed and keep attraction there long after the baits have been eaten

The new aminol seems pretty effective too
runneil runneil
Posts: 1,954
Post #23 10 Aug 2020 16:44
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I said this on another post about S7 , I was interested to know if the liquids themselves were attractive to carp, Mark Holmes did a great job in convincing lots of us they were.

Well I'm fortunate to fish a clear lake with deep margins which the fish visit regularly. I used my baiting spoon to introduce large amounts of fish hydro and hydro wheat, I waited for the fish to start ripping the bottom up, nothing fish even swimming through the area ignored it, however introduce boilies straight out of the bag and the fish were straight on them.

I don't think using these liquids will do your fishing any harm but also don't think they greatly improve your chances of catching.
Tony59 Tony59
Posts: 1,661
Post #24 10 Aug 2020 20:28
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Same as I have experienced then.
Gonna save me a small fortune in liquids.
Cambscarper1974 Cambscarper1974
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Post #25 11 Aug 2020 08:02
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I've argued with people about this before. i try and tell them that a coated bait, even if it's dried on will lose a lot of its coating by the time it has reached the bottom. One of the lakes I fish is 30ft deep on average so there won't be much powder getting to the bottom! Maybe the new Sticky active is different but in my experience coating baits in powder is a waste of time. if i'm going to rehydrate I use water or better still fish sauce from the supermarket as its thin enough to be drawn into the bait.
Wayne Wayne
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Post #26 11 Aug 2020 09:18
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In reply to Post #25
Coat them with Gelatine mix first, Will be stuck for a fair while then.......
InTheMargin
Posts: 451
Post #27 11 Aug 2020 09:59
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totally agree. Coating a bait in powder is a complete waste of money in my opinion. Most if not all of it will be washed off before the bait hits the bottom. As for liquids, seems to be a trend now to soak your boilies in a liquid to "boost" them. I've heard of people washing out their baits in water, then pouring a 10 quid bottle of liquid over them. I honestly can't see the point? If your boilies have already taken on the liquid from the water, then there is no chance the liquid additive will soak in?

So basically.....wash out ya baits so the carp thinks they've been in the lake for ages, then pour liquid on em to "boost" em, going against the 1st method. Then pour a tub of powder on em which will wash off when you put the bait out.
Cambscarper1974 Cambscarper1974
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Post #28 11 Aug 2020 10:50
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In reply to Post #26
Yes, that's an option. However won't the gelatine seal in the attractors from the bait? I prefer to keep things simple. put my boilies in with my particle for the most part or if i'm just using boilie then add some fish sauce as they defrost.
Silverback Silverback
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Post #29 11 Aug 2020 11:21
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In reply to Post #27
Marketing....
InTheMargin
Posts: 451
Post #30 11 Aug 2020 11:38
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In reply to Post #29
correct and anglers are sucked in by it all.
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