In reply to Post #14
I nearly jacked it in for good when the Jolly Green Giant changed his recipe. I heard it was something to do with the EU.
I nearly jacked it in for good when the Jolly Green Giant changed his recipe. I heard it was something to do with the EU.
Has anyone tried the flavours recently?
I would love some winter secret but I fear it won't be the same as it once was
I would love some winter secret but I fear it won't be the same as it once was
In reply to Post #17
Their squid and octopus is definitely not the same, used the old one in the 90;s had a bottle left and bought the new one, new one nowhere near as pungent as the old. Not even close !
Their squid and octopus is definitely not the same, used the old one in the 90;s had a bottle left and bought the new one, new one nowhere near as pungent as the old. Not even close !
In reply to Post #18
This. It's far more astringent and 'chemical'.
On a plus side, get the original on eBay and you might find a three figure selling price when it's over.
This. It's far more astringent and 'chemical'.
On a plus side, get the original on eBay and you might find a three figure selling price when it's over.
Ok so we seemingly know that the S&O is not the same, now that is a real bummer if this is true.
Has anyone checked the ph? The original was very alkaline which was part of its unique success.
Also, has anyone actually tried the Winter Secret (now known as “the secret”) to compare to the original?
Has anyone checked the ph? The original was very alkaline which was part of its unique success.
Also, has anyone actually tried the Winter Secret (now known as “the secret”) to compare to the original?
In reply to Post #20
Hi
For all we know the 'new' versions are much better than the old so it would be better to actually try the 'new' bait before anyone mentions the slightest negativity regarding the bait as it's bound to be different, and this may or may not be better for the catch rates.
So, best to actually try it yourself rather than reading a response of 'it's nowhere near as pungent as it was before ....etc' and making instant judgement.
Hi
For all we know the 'new' versions are much better than the old so it would be better to actually try the 'new' bait before anyone mentions the slightest negativity regarding the bait as it's bound to be different, and this may or may not be better for the catch rates.
So, best to actually try it yourself rather than reading a response of 'it's nowhere near as pungent as it was before ....etc' and making instant judgement.
In reply to Post #21
Lol lets all throw the money away... And yes I tried the new one...
Lol lets all throw the money away... And yes I tried the new one...
“Andy Carper” I am not asking if they are any good, I am asking if they are the original deal.
Darkol, which one of the new ones have you tried and what was your findings?
Darkol, which one of the new ones have you tried and what was your findings?
In reply to Post #23
Sam I was talking about S&O flavour... just not the same...
Sam I was talking about S&O flavour... just not the same...
In reply to Post #20
Sam, not seen the original but the Solar/Fisher baits original was made by the same German company as I mentioned earlier, so it won't be identical.
Sam, not seen the original but the Solar/Fisher baits original was made by the same German company as I mentioned earlier, so it won't be identical.
In reply to Post #25
Thanks NemesisWitch.
Do you know which ones weren't made by the German confectionary company?
Thanks NemesisWitch.
Do you know which ones weren't made by the German confectionary company?
The original S&O was not a flavouring. It was an enhancer produced in Japan that was made from natural marine chemicals (e.g. DMPT) to improve the intake of koi feed.
In reply to Post #24
So all this solar originals is a load of crap, and there not, are we being lied 2 on web sight, over to u martin lock, please
So all this solar originals is a load of crap, and there not, are we being lied 2 on web sight, over to u martin lock, please
In reply to Post #27
I know you probably used the DMPT reference as an example but before someone misunderstands I can tell you categorically DMPT was not in S & O. DMPT is very acidic and S&O is very alkaline, no way is that chemically possible and no I am not a chemist just someone with common sense.
My guess on S&O is a high concentration of TMA
I know you probably used the DMPT reference as an example but before someone misunderstands I can tell you categorically DMPT was not in S & O. DMPT is very acidic and S&O is very alkaline, no way is that chemically possible and no I am not a chemist just someone with common sense.
My guess on S&O is a high concentration of TMA
In reply to Post #29
Yes, my bad. Not DMPT but TMAO.
Yes, my bad. Not DMPT but TMAO.