In reply to Post #227
38k cases in the last 24hrs in France reported today, this is not good......
Hope they get on top of it soon...
The EU ordered 300 million AstraZeneca vaccine doses.... eu leaders are convincing their people that the jab is bad and have side effects but their still demanding that they get their orders..... crazy crazy mad situation in the EU....
38k cases in the last 24hrs in France reported today, this is not good......
Hope they get on top of it soon...
The EU ordered 300 million AstraZeneca vaccine doses.... eu leaders are convincing their people that the jab is bad and have side effects but their still demanding that they get their orders..... crazy crazy mad situation in the EU....
In reply to Post #228
eu leaders are convincing their people that the jab is bad and have side effects... Dont know where you got this but it is certainly not true for 2 countries I live in.
eu leaders are convincing their people that the jab is bad and have side effects... Dont know where you got this but it is certainly not true for 2 countries I live in.
In reply to Post #229
Top eu leaders have knocked the AZ vaccine several time now.
French president Emmanuel Macron suggested the vaccine was “quasi-ineffective” on older individuals.
German chancellor Angela Merkel has said she will not have the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine because it is not recommended for her age group.
They can't jump on the anti AZ vaccine fast enough, as of yesterday quite a few eu countries had paused the rollout of the vaccine due to safety concerns. Due to their negative views millions of AZ vaccine doses in the eu are sitting in fridges unused. This is directly as a result of the eu leaders negativity towards this vaccine.
The EU now need to reverse the negativity passed onto EU citizens and to do this they need to admit they were wrong and I can't see this happening this side of hell freezing over...
All this will do is slow down the EU's pandemic recovery and slow down the relaxing of travel restrictions.
Top eu leaders have knocked the AZ vaccine several time now.
French president Emmanuel Macron suggested the vaccine was “quasi-ineffective” on older individuals.
German chancellor Angela Merkel has said she will not have the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine because it is not recommended for her age group.
They can't jump on the anti AZ vaccine fast enough, as of yesterday quite a few eu countries had paused the rollout of the vaccine due to safety concerns. Due to their negative views millions of AZ vaccine doses in the eu are sitting in fridges unused. This is directly as a result of the eu leaders negativity towards this vaccine.
The EU now need to reverse the negativity passed onto EU citizens and to do this they need to admit they were wrong and I can't see this happening this side of hell freezing over...
All this will do is slow down the EU's pandemic recovery and slow down the relaxing of travel restrictions.
In reply to Post #230
How is Merkel telling the truth "jumping on the AZ anti-vaccine fast enough" ?
How is Merkel telling the truth "jumping on the AZ anti-vaccine fast enough" ?
In reply to Post #230
looks like more aggressive english and south african strains are prevailing in europe at the moment and causing 3th wave and if AZ will not adopt their vaccine there will not be much sense soon to vaccine people with it as it is like only 10% efficient against african strain at the moment...
looks like more aggressive english and south african strains are prevailing in europe at the moment and causing 3th wave and if AZ will not adopt their vaccine there will not be much sense soon to vaccine people with it as it is like only 10% efficient against african strain at the moment...
In reply to Post #232
You have selectively not mentioned that - Other research suggests that the AZ vaccine is still likely to reduce severe cases and deaths from the South African strain.
It's so easy to change/maniulate the facts in a statement by taking a few words out in isolation.
You also missed ou the following:-
Oxford University is working on adapting the vaccine to ensure that it protects against this variant, as well as other strains. They have said a ‘booster' jab could be available by autumn 2021.
There are currently only a small number of cases of the South African variant in the UK, and the government has put measures in place to minimise community spread of this variant.
This was always expected as Coronaviruses mutate all the time.
You have selectively not mentioned that - Other research suggests that the AZ vaccine is still likely to reduce severe cases and deaths from the South African strain.
It's so easy to change/maniulate the facts in a statement by taking a few words out in isolation.
You also missed ou the following:-
Oxford University is working on adapting the vaccine to ensure that it protects against this variant, as well as other strains. They have said a ‘booster' jab could be available by autumn 2021.
There are currently only a small number of cases of the South African variant in the UK, and the government has put measures in place to minimise community spread of this variant.
This was always expected as Coronaviruses mutate all the time.
In reply to Post #233
Nothing selective here... For sure after 1 year we should have more than "still likely"?? And is not deaths that is the problem... It is spreading... Jumping on the vaccine certificate to travel and than you have 9/10 people still getting infected... you are not stopping pandemic by doung that... and I didnt miss anything I wrote as well that if they will not adopt vaccine... There are better vaccine out there at the moment... That is a fact... Hopefully az will change soon as majority of countries are planning to vaccine in general with that.... And to finish I would get az right now if possible I am not against it but can look at bigger picture... Unfortunatelly this is all more than not muu point... Majority of eu is going back in lockdowns as we speak...
Nothing selective here... For sure after 1 year we should have more than "still likely"?? And is not deaths that is the problem... It is spreading... Jumping on the vaccine certificate to travel and than you have 9/10 people still getting infected... you are not stopping pandemic by doung that... and I didnt miss anything I wrote as well that if they will not adopt vaccine... There are better vaccine out there at the moment... That is a fact... Hopefully az will change soon as majority of countries are planning to vaccine in general with that.... And to finish I would get az right now if possible I am not against it but can look at bigger picture... Unfortunatelly this is all more than not muu point... Majority of eu is going back in lockdowns as we speak...
In reply to Post #234
I think every country in the EU would love to be in the position that the UK is regarding vaccine rollout progress, you can see the effect it is having on hospital admissions and deaths using the approved available vaccines.
If EU citizens are vaccine skeptics then the EU leaders have a job to reverse this as vaccination is the only way out of lockdowns and the return to relative normality.
16 regions in france going into lockdown now...
Good to see the French PM today get an AZ vaccine, bit of a publicity stunt but it may have an effect and get France sorted out sooner rather than later.
I think every country in the EU would love to be in the position that the UK is regarding vaccine rollout progress, you can see the effect it is having on hospital admissions and deaths using the approved available vaccines.
If EU citizens are vaccine skeptics then the EU leaders have a job to reverse this as vaccination is the only way out of lockdowns and the return to relative normality.
16 regions in france going into lockdown now...
Good to see the French PM today get an AZ vaccine, bit of a publicity stunt but it may have an effect and get France sorted out sooner rather than later.
In reply to Post #235
Parts of France back in lock down as of last night i see
Parts of France back in lock down as of last night i see
In reply to Post #236
Dr Tildesley told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "I think that international travel this summer is, for the average holidaymaker, sadly I think, extremely unlikely.
"I think we are running a real risk if we do start to have lots of people going overseas in July, for instance, and August because of the potential for bringing more of these new variants back into the country.
"What is really dangerous is if we jeopardise our vaccination campaign by having these variants, where the vaccines don't work as effectively, spreading more rapidly."
Dr Tildesley, is a member of the government's Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Modelling, which feeds into Sage.
Plagiarism, but that looks the likely advice, heading into autumn after that and a probable winter spike.
Dr Tildesley told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "I think that international travel this summer is, for the average holidaymaker, sadly I think, extremely unlikely.
"I think we are running a real risk if we do start to have lots of people going overseas in July, for instance, and August because of the potential for bringing more of these new variants back into the country.
"What is really dangerous is if we jeopardise our vaccination campaign by having these variants, where the vaccines don't work as effectively, spreading more rapidly."
Dr Tildesley, is a member of the government's Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Modelling, which feeds into Sage.
Plagiarism, but that looks the likely advice, heading into autumn after that and a probable winter spike.
In reply to Post #236
And possibly soon to be the rest of the country as most (lots?!) of Paris once again did a runner out of town to beat the lockdown
And possibly soon to be the rest of the country as most (lots?!) of Paris once again did a runner out of town to beat the lockdown
In reply to Post #238
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-scientists-worried-european-infection-rates-will-thwart-summer-foreign-holidays-12251548
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-scientists-worried-european-infection-rates-will-thwart-summer-foreign-holidays-12251548
Another bad year will surely put quite a few lakes out of business. Sad times
In reply to Post #240
i cant see many french trips being able to happen this yr, add to the covid, weve got to deal with the travel issues post brexit too
i cant see many french trips being able to happen this yr, add to the covid, weve got to deal with the travel issues post brexit too
In reply to Post #241
Non essential abroad trips going to made illegal from Monday until june 30th earliest
Non essential abroad trips going to made illegal from Monday until june 30th earliest