So 12 UK steel plants with thousands of employees is at risk after another grubby London based financial services outfit goes bust, Greensill. Suggestion is some of the hundred's of millions of pounds debts are UK government backed.
How embarrassing having David Cameron as an advisor with a share stake.
Pants down
How embarrassing having David Cameron as an advisor with a share stake.
Pants down
In reply to Post #2371
I have worked in the steel industry and I will tell you now it is complete and utter Mickey Mouse
Ex British steel, one of the pinnacles of British engineering, what a ****ing shambles, mis-management of the highest level, criminal in fact. Horizontal buyouts that have not payed off have left them in billions of debt, all they have done is raped it for its technology and took it all abroad, total embarrassment
What's the government going to do, keep it ticking over with tax payers money to keep the employment figures down and try and save face
Should have backed it from the start and kept all the foreign Investors , thieves out
I have worked in the steel industry and I will tell you now it is complete and utter Mickey Mouse
Ex British steel, one of the pinnacles of British engineering, what a ****ing shambles, mis-management of the highest level, criminal in fact. Horizontal buyouts that have not payed off have left them in billions of debt, all they have done is raped it for its technology and took it all abroad, total embarrassment
What's the government going to do, keep it ticking over with tax payers money to keep the employment figures down and try and save face
Should have backed it from the start and kept all the foreign Investors , thieves out
In reply to Post #2372
It's like its a British disease fear of long term investment in critical industries. Seem far more comfortable flogging critical industries off to asset strippers.
It's like its a British disease fear of long term investment in critical industries. Seem far more comfortable flogging critical industries off to asset strippers.
In reply to Post #2368
From the angle i'm looking from he's compliant
spanker the anarchist
In reply to Post #2373 I agree with that
From the angle i'm looking from he's compliant
spanker the anarchist
In reply to Post #2373 I agree with that
In reply to Post #2373
So true
Pathetic decisions by pathetic people sadly, you make a change and further down the line you get the results, what a mess!
Manufacturing in this country is a dying breed sadly and these governments have just stood by, clueless. When we are a nation of imports and sales and there is not much left we know who to thank, the ****ing stupid politicians
So true
Pathetic decisions by pathetic people sadly, you make a change and further down the line you get the results, what a mess!
Manufacturing in this country is a dying breed sadly and these governments have just stood by, clueless. When we are a nation of imports and sales and there is not much left we know who to thank, the ****ing stupid politicians
1 in 4 manufacturing jobs were lost in Thatchers first term as she chased a boom and boost economy based on a housing market and the city via privatisation , then again Blair wasn't much better as he thought that anything that was to be manufactured could be done so elsewhere cheaper , Bolton had a lot of the countries heavy engineering , all gone now !
In reply to Post #2376
Framed a political decision on UK manufacturing and industry as "taking on the unions" it was a trojan horse in reality that the Alf Garnett's lapped up. A nation of bankers and shop keepers was the goal (sure there's a song in there)
Framed a political decision on UK manufacturing and industry as "taking on the unions" it was a trojan horse in reality that the Alf Garnett's lapped up. A nation of bankers and shop keepers was the goal (sure there's a song in there)
Sorry back to vaccines
Just watched BBC news where they stated 27 cases of AZ have had blood clots in Europe 👍🏻 But Pfizer have had 25, they are not suspending Pfizer though 🙀 so just using UK figures 23,000,000 jabs 52 cases, or if your in Europe 27 cases and no mention of Pfizer. Again blood clots not outside the normal parameters. So you've ****ed up your order, slagged the vaccine off out of spite, your population is turning against you, what do you do? Suspend the vaccine for 48 hours in Macrons case 😷😷😷 to make AZ the bad boy👍🏻
Returning to the current discussion
This country destroyed industry years ago, both Labour and Conservative, let's play the money markets and build service industries instead. What happened at first lockdown no industries to repurpose and go cap in hand begging throughout the world for PPE and the likes. Leaving us open to being ripped off by our own government, our own supposed captains of industries and other countries supplying sub standard equipment and supplies at sky high prices
FFS I might vote green next time as they couldn't possibly **** this country up worse than Labour and Conservatives
Just watched BBC news where they stated 27 cases of AZ have had blood clots in Europe 👍🏻 But Pfizer have had 25, they are not suspending Pfizer though 🙀 so just using UK figures 23,000,000 jabs 52 cases, or if your in Europe 27 cases and no mention of Pfizer. Again blood clots not outside the normal parameters. So you've ****ed up your order, slagged the vaccine off out of spite, your population is turning against you, what do you do? Suspend the vaccine for 48 hours in Macrons case 😷😷😷 to make AZ the bad boy👍🏻
Returning to the current discussion
This country destroyed industry years ago, both Labour and Conservative, let's play the money markets and build service industries instead. What happened at first lockdown no industries to repurpose and go cap in hand begging throughout the world for PPE and the likes. Leaving us open to being ripped off by our own government, our own supposed captains of industries and other countries supplying sub standard equipment and supplies at sky high prices
FFS I might vote green next time as they couldn't possibly **** this country up worse than Labour and Conservatives
In reply to Post #2378
If they don't want it give to someone like Brazil or a number of other countries.
Other subject. Maggie was the worst of the lot
If they don't want it give to someone like Brazil or a number of other countries.
Other subject. Maggie was the worst of the lot
In reply to Post #2377
Yep ,Sad but true the tory party knew that it would serve their self interests to eliminate our manufacturing base and along with it our unions , fu** the collateral damage
Yep ,Sad but true the tory party knew that it would serve their self interests to eliminate our manufacturing base and along with it our unions , fu** the collateral damage
In reply to Post #2378
Time will tell the true story !
Time will tell the true story !
In reply to Post #2378
Here in Bolton we had a firm that produces the material for ppe gowns , they could not understand why Boris was ignoring them when they said they could make a large percentage of the gowns required for our nhs and eventually signed a contract to supply the USA !
possibly no money in it for their bent mates ???
Here in Bolton we had a firm that produces the material for ppe gowns , they could not understand why Boris was ignoring them when they said they could make a large percentage of the gowns required for our nhs and eventually signed a contract to supply the USA !
possibly no money in it for their bent mates ???
In reply to Post #2379
In regards to Maggie was she the worst or just the woman to sort out the mismanagement of the seventies with unions blackmailing everyone, weak pandering Governments and the British worker wanting top pay for 2nd rate work. British Leyland?
I entered the workforce during the winter of discontent 1978/9. I remember the 3 day week my father had to work, 4 hours on 4 hours off power cuts. My first job was pushing Cory frames full of rubbish from Clapham Junction to Clapham Common and throwing bags onto 6ft high rubbish mountains and watching them be attacked by rats. That was under a Labour government on the side of the workers and unions! Things have improved in this country but watching the news now I sometimes wonder ! 👍🏻
In regards to Maggie was she the worst or just the woman to sort out the mismanagement of the seventies with unions blackmailing everyone, weak pandering Governments and the British worker wanting top pay for 2nd rate work. British Leyland?
I entered the workforce during the winter of discontent 1978/9. I remember the 3 day week my father had to work, 4 hours on 4 hours off power cuts. My first job was pushing Cory frames full of rubbish from Clapham Junction to Clapham Common and throwing bags onto 6ft high rubbish mountains and watching them be attacked by rats. That was under a Labour government on the side of the workers and unions! Things have improved in this country but watching the news now I sometimes wonder ! 👍🏻
In reply to Post #2383
For balance , look at what the Banking crisis brought us , how many years of austerity ??? where were the sweeping changes that were and still are required to keep them in check , don't swallow everything that you are told when their is an obvious agenda for those that recite it
Edited , from the 1970's strikes ,
As former Fleet Street editor Derek Jameson later recalled of press coverage of the "crisis", "we pulled every dirty trick in the book; we made it look like it was general, universal and eternal, when it was in reality scattered, here and there, and no great problem".
Dr Bryn Jones
University of Bath
For balance , look at what the Banking crisis brought us , how many years of austerity ??? where were the sweeping changes that were and still are required to keep them in check , don't swallow everything that you are told when their is an obvious agenda for those that recite it
Edited , from the 1970's strikes ,
As former Fleet Street editor Derek Jameson later recalled of press coverage of the "crisis", "we pulled every dirty trick in the book; we made it look like it was general, universal and eternal, when it was in reality scattered, here and there, and no great problem".
Dr Bryn Jones
University of Bath
In reply to Post #2383
It certainly needed some rebalancing but she took it too far.
As for opening stuff up for competition how does that work with the trains and water. I have no choice of companies when I get on the local train, bus or who supplies my water
It certainly needed some rebalancing but she took it too far.
As for opening stuff up for competition how does that work with the trains and water. I have no choice of companies when I get on the local train, bus or who supplies my water