In reply to Post #210
Thanks.
They must be testing the right people and getting them early. Can you request a test or are they targeting specific group's?
Thanks.
They must be testing the right people and getting them early. Can you request a test or are they targeting specific group's?
In reply to Post #211
You can request a test if you got any symtomps or for people like doctors, nurses, police and so on
You can request a test if you got any symtomps or for people like doctors, nurses, police and so on
In reply to Post #204
Whilst i would always recommend travel Insurance it doesn't justify a lake owner keeping your money in these circumstances. They in turn should have their own cancellation cover.
The Insurance Companies are not just automatically paying out and a travel policy should be viewed as the last resort, the travel operator, airline, hotel or venue provider should be offering a solution first.
Whilst i would always recommend travel Insurance it doesn't justify a lake owner keeping your money in these circumstances. They in turn should have their own cancellation cover.
The Insurance Companies are not just automatically paying out and a travel policy should be viewed as the last resort, the travel operator, airline, hotel or venue provider should be offering a solution first.
In reply to Post #212
Thanks.
Seems a few countries have a markedly lower mortality rate per number of infections than others. Germany, Austria, Switzerland are 3. Sounds like you're doing the same as us so no idea why that is.
Thanks.
Seems a few countries have a markedly lower mortality rate per number of infections than others. Germany, Austria, Switzerland are 3. Sounds like you're doing the same as us so no idea why that is.
In reply to Post #214
We are not testing ,unless people are hospitalized. So the death rate in England is higher because many infected people are not being diagnosed. Which is why social distancing is imperative. I've seen so many morons in groups you wouldn't credit it. The trouble is they will infect many people in high risk groups, not just their stupid mates.
We are not testing ,unless people are hospitalized. So the death rate in England is higher because many infected people are not being diagnosed. Which is why social distancing is imperative. I've seen so many morons in groups you wouldn't credit it. The trouble is they will infect many people in high risk groups, not just their stupid mates.
In reply to Post #215
I thought we we also doing the "trace" phase where you obviously test the people the person in hospital who is positive has been in contact with? So effectively request a test.
I thought we we also doing the "trace" phase where you obviously test the people the person in hospital who is positive has been in contact with? So effectively request a test.
In reply to Post #216
I would think so, but that's not the same as testing all people who have any symptoms. You shouldn't need to be isolated for weeks just for a cold.
I would think so, but that's not the same as testing all people who have any symptoms. You shouldn't need to be isolated for weeks just for a cold.
In reply to Post #217
Maybe it's a privacy issue. It's got to be easier people coming forward for tests if they've been in contact with someone recently. Rather than the person that's ill trying to remember and then authorities trying to find people.
Maybe it's a privacy issue. It's got to be easier people coming forward for tests if they've been in contact with someone recently. Rather than the person that's ill trying to remember and then authorities trying to find people.
In reply to Post #216
That was being done at the start but now with the rapid increase in cases, probably not practical.
That was being done at the start but now with the rapid increase in cases, probably not practical.
In reply to Post #213
Get real.............
Where are you getting this ridiculous idea from.
Please expand on you previous experience of these mystical refunds !!!!
When you book a holiday ...............
It is down to YOU to take correct cover............ NOT THE SUPPLIER.
From the lakes booking pages to the ferry and tunnel ..............BIG QUESTION ...DO YOU WANT INSURANCE.
It cannot be any more self explanatory and SIMPLE.
If you were talking about your summer holiday being cancelled ............. you would go straight to your insurance policy and not even contemplate trying to get a refund from the hotel , or start bitching about the hotel.
None of you can justify blaming the lake owners .............
I would imagine the 50% non returnable deposits is 'their insurance'.......... Obviously enough to cover a no show.
Then that opens up a whole new can of worms , as to how much you are initially paying for a weeks fishing if owners are settling for 50% non refundable for a no show ??
As I said earlier there have been many posts about why 50% is the norm in fishing trips....Personally I do not think that is right.
Get real.............
Where are you getting this ridiculous idea from.
Please expand on you previous experience of these mystical refunds !!!!
When you book a holiday ...............
It is down to YOU to take correct cover............ NOT THE SUPPLIER.
From the lakes booking pages to the ferry and tunnel ..............BIG QUESTION ...DO YOU WANT INSURANCE.
It cannot be any more self explanatory and SIMPLE.
If you were talking about your summer holiday being cancelled ............. you would go straight to your insurance policy and not even contemplate trying to get a refund from the hotel , or start bitching about the hotel.
None of you can justify blaming the lake owners .............
I would imagine the 50% non returnable deposits is 'their insurance'.......... Obviously enough to cover a no show.
Then that opens up a whole new can of worms , as to how much you are initially paying for a weeks fishing if owners are settling for 50% non refundable for a no show ??
As I said earlier there have been many posts about why 50% is the norm in fishing trips....Personally I do not think that is right.
In reply to Post #220
OK BigYelloCoc you obviously know better than everyone else so we will all just bow to your superior knowledge...
It is not as black and white as you say, although I do agree that anyone booking a holiday without appropriate travel insurance is foolish.
Under any Insurance policy a claim is dealt with under it's own merits and there are countless caveats for cancellation under travel policies.
I know of two parties of anglers who are in this position. The first one, the owner decided to shut his lake just a week before their trip before the FCO listed France and all but essential travel was banned. On the second one a group of lads decided not to travel for fear of getting stuck over there. In both cases the Insurers aren't getting involved as 1) it was the venues decision to close and 2) they could have traveled but chose not to.
Like I said, it's not black and white in every case....nothing mystical about that, just fact!
The success or otherwise of claims for losses or costs suffered as a result of travel disruption will depend on the individual policy taken out, when it was taken out, who cancelled the trip and the reason why.
OK BigYelloCoc you obviously know better than everyone else so we will all just bow to your superior knowledge...
It is not as black and white as you say, although I do agree that anyone booking a holiday without appropriate travel insurance is foolish. Under any Insurance policy a claim is dealt with under it's own merits and there are countless caveats for cancellation under travel policies.
I know of two parties of anglers who are in this position. The first one, the owner decided to shut his lake just a week before their trip before the FCO listed France and all but essential travel was banned. On the second one a group of lads decided not to travel for fear of getting stuck over there. In both cases the Insurers aren't getting involved as 1) it was the venues decision to close and 2) they could have traveled but chose not to.
Like I said, it's not black and white in every case....nothing mystical about that, just fact!
The success or otherwise of claims for losses or costs suffered as a result of travel disruption will depend on the individual policy taken out, when it was taken out, who cancelled the trip and the reason why.
In reply to Post #221
You are arguing against yourself there....Totally different scenarios.
An owner shutting his lake prior to a fully paid trip is a different kettle of fish.
That is then between him and his paid group.
Similar thing .....My Campanile hotel booking has been refunded directly by them ....... because they were not allowed to fulfill my booking under French laws...... No insurance claim required.
P&O have offered a credit note for alternate travel.
My travel insurance came into play 10 days prior to my trip.......
Prior to that We would also have taken a massive hit ............due to Government delays in outlining policy.
Second point is sadly not valid for the insurance argument. For whatever reason ....They chose not to go .
Again I have pulled out of a trip planned for May ...........No bans in place yet.....our choice that we cannot risk what will be happening.........No insurance involved , because we have cancelled....We are out of pocket on that.
Based on these cries for lake owners to pay ...........Nobody would ever take out insurance again.
Heres a positive thought............
Why don't lake owners deal with a complete package ........... to include full insurance cover for any eventuality.
I suspect the reason they don't is because it would become glaringly obvious to anglers just how much insurance they need to pay.
You are arguing against yourself there....Totally different scenarios.
An owner shutting his lake prior to a fully paid trip is a different kettle of fish.
That is then between him and his paid group.
Similar thing .....My Campanile hotel booking has been refunded directly by them ....... because they were not allowed to fulfill my booking under French laws...... No insurance claim required.
P&O have offered a credit note for alternate travel.
My travel insurance came into play 10 days prior to my trip.......
Prior to that We would also have taken a massive hit ............due to Government delays in outlining policy.
Second point is sadly not valid for the insurance argument. For whatever reason ....They chose not to go .
Again I have pulled out of a trip planned for May ...........No bans in place yet.....our choice that we cannot risk what will be happening.........No insurance involved , because we have cancelled....We are out of pocket on that.
Based on these cries for lake owners to pay ...........Nobody would ever take out insurance again.
Heres a positive thought............
Why don't lake owners deal with a complete package ........... to include full insurance cover for any eventuality.
I suspect the reason they don't is because it would become glaringly obvious to anglers just how much insurance they need to pay.
In reply to Post #222
I'm not arguing against myself at all.....
You said it was "self-explanatory and simple" in post #220....I'm saying that it isn't...and you are compounding my points by agreeing that there are "totally different scenarios" and giving further examples...
I'm not arguing against myself at all.....
You said it was "self-explanatory and simple" in post #220....I'm saying that it isn't...and you are compounding my points by agreeing that there are "totally different scenarios" and giving further examples...
In reply to Post #222
Thinking logically should both parties not have insurance,
Personal insurance to cover the individual not being able to complete the holiday due to their own circumstances.
Lake owners / Hotels / transport to cover them not being able to accommodate guests?
In my opinion, if you have paid for a service and that service isn't provided then it should be refunded, simple.
If you purchased a train ticket and that was cancelled due to network issues would you expect a refund?
Thinking logically should both parties not have insurance,
Personal insurance to cover the individual not being able to complete the holiday due to their own circumstances.
Lake owners / Hotels / transport to cover them not being able to accommodate guests?
In my opinion, if you have paid for a service and that service isn't provided then it should be refunded, simple.
If you purchased a train ticket and that was cancelled due to network issues would you expect a refund?
In reply to Post #224
Agree but if you couldn't make it to the station? You wouldn't expect a refund from the train company. You need to be able to apportion blame to a party, rely on goodwill or have insurance that covers the particular issue.
Agree but if you couldn't make it to the station? You wouldn't expect a refund from the train company. You need to be able to apportion blame to a party, rely on goodwill or have insurance that covers the particular issue.