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In reply to Post #191
The deep mesh will be a Godsend for me on a lake I fish where there is a reasonable drop down to the margin, which is shallow for a couple of feet and then drops off again....retainers are banned so the deep mesh will allow plenty of room for anything i may be lucky to catch to sit there for 5 minutes whilst i get the camera etc ready...
The deep mesh will be a Godsend for me on a lake I fish where there is a reasonable drop down to the margin, which is shallow for a couple of feet and then drops off again....retainers are banned so the deep mesh will allow plenty of room for anything i may be lucky to catch to sit there for 5 minutes whilst i get the camera etc ready...
In reply to Post #194
😂 looks like im wrong then. Ive stuck mine in the wifes side of the wardrobe till a shallow mesh comes out. It was quite amusing this morn when she said whats that long camo thing in the wardrobe amongst my dresses.
Its not reallly a spike, its more of a dome so will take some pushing in i would imagine if you do use like that.
😂 looks like im wrong then. Ive stuck mine in the wifes side of the wardrobe till a shallow mesh comes out. It was quite amusing this morn when she said whats that long camo thing in the wardrobe amongst my dresses.
Its not reallly a spike, its more of a dome so will take some pushing in i would imagine if you do use like that.
In reply to Post #198
It's about levers ,the force on a stiff rod is applied to you on a stiff rod so in essence you feel the force and pressure , the same force on a through action rod is applied more to the other end , this is why boat rods are shorter in length if they were long and fast taper they would flip you out of a boat .-Lee Jackson showed a video years ago and more pressure was applied on a through action rod when tied to scales .
It's about levers ,the force on a stiff rod is applied to you on a stiff rod so in essence you feel the force and pressure , the same force on a through action rod is applied more to the other end , this is why boat rods are shorter in length if they were long and fast taper they would flip you out of a boat .-Lee Jackson showed a video years ago and more pressure was applied on a through action rod when tied to scales .
In reply to Post #202
This Lee Jackson video is often quoted, but what must be remembered is that he had braid on the reel on the softer rod, and mono on the heavier actioned rod.
Yes, I do understand the physics of it.
This Lee Jackson video is often quoted, but what must be remembered is that he had braid on the reel on the softer rod, and mono on the heavier actioned rod.
Yes, I do understand the physics of it.
In reply to Post #203
Im still not sure why they did it with braid on the through actioned rod on that video.
Im still not sure why they did it with braid on the through actioned rod on that video.
In reply to Post #203
Agree , but the results would be the same once the stretch of the mono has gone
Agree , but the results would be the same once the stretch of the mono has gone
In reply to Post #202
Length of a Rod, Action of a Rod, materials it's made of, number of sections is all utterly Irrelevant-
Example: take a 3 1/2tc 8ft Rod and a 3 1/2tc 13ft Rod, both will bend to exactly 90 degrees when a weight of 3 1/2Lb is applied to the Rod.
How the Rod bends and were the Rod bends depends on the design/make up of the Rod, but both will store exactly 3 1/2lbs of stored energy when positioned at 90 degree's
Length of a Rod, Action of a Rod, materials it's made of, number of sections is all utterly Irrelevant-
Example: take a 3 1/2tc 8ft Rod and a 3 1/2tc 13ft Rod, both will bend to exactly 90 degrees when a weight of 3 1/2Lb is applied to the Rod.
How the Rod bends and were the Rod bends depends on the design/make up of the Rod, but both will store exactly 3 1/2lbs of stored energy when positioned at 90 degree's
In reply to Post #206
Spot on.
The angler will have to exert more pressure to bend the longer rod to the 3.5lb test curve on the longer rod.
BUT... the mate on the other end "holding the line" will be more easily able to pull the tip over on the longer rod.
Again, simple physics.
This is why these short but beefy rods are a horrible fish playing option and could end up doing more mouth damage if there is a sudden lunge from a fish.
Spot on.
The angler will have to exert more pressure to bend the longer rod to the 3.5lb test curve on the longer rod.
BUT... the mate on the other end "holding the line" will be more easily able to pull the tip over on the longer rod.
Again, simple physics.
This is why these short but beefy rods are a horrible fish playing option and could end up doing more mouth damage if there is a sudden lunge from a fish.
In reply to Post #206
Yes , but a shorter lever will exert more pressure. If you have to pull for a break,what do you do? Point the rod directly at the lead thus reducing the rods effective length to zero.
Yes , but a shorter lever will exert more pressure. If you have to pull for a break,what do you do? Point the rod directly at the lead thus reducing the rods effective length to zero.
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In reply to Post #208
Exactly that
Exactly that
In reply to Post #208
No they won't, if both Rods are 3 1/2 tc (as that was the test curve specification they was built too) when both are bent to 90 degrees are exactly the same, that's the bench mark for fishing Rods, the standard measure it does not vary.
I think what you mean is - it's more user friendly to have a 13ft Rod bent to 90 degrees than it is to have a 8ft long Rod of the same Tc in your hands being bent to 90 degrees
No they won't, if both Rods are 3 1/2 tc (as that was the test curve specification they was built too) when both are bent to 90 degrees are exactly the same, that's the bench mark for fishing Rods, the standard measure it does not vary.
I think what you mean is - it's more user friendly to have a 13ft Rod bent to 90 degrees than it is to have a 8ft long Rod of the same Tc in your hands being bent to 90 degrees
In reply to Post #211
Longer rod fast taper when bent 90deg will exert more pressure on you , than a through action rod ,both could have the same tc and length but as a rod bends more the pressure is applied at the other end .Don't think anyone could apply 4lb of pressure on a fast taper rod where it would feel more comfortable on a through action rod Hope that makes sense .
Longer rod fast taper when bent 90deg will exert more pressure on you , than a through action rod ,both could have the same tc and length but as a rod bends more the pressure is applied at the other end .Don't think anyone could apply 4lb of pressure on a fast taper rod where it would feel more comfortable on a through action rod Hope that makes sense .
In reply to Post #198
That's not how it works though. That "stored" energy is exactly that. Your putting your energy into bending the blank, rather than pulling the line. The reason you can put way more pressure on if you just point the directly at the lead so it doesn't bend at all.
A soft rod will be 90 degrees a lot quicker than a stiff rod will be. When it's 90 degrees, the rod is shorter, so it's way easier to put more pressure on. The same principal as holding a heavy weight out full arm length is a lot harder than holding it close to your body.
That's not how it works though. That "stored" energy is exactly that. Your putting your energy into bending the blank, rather than pulling the line. The reason you can put way more pressure on if you just point the directly at the lead so it doesn't bend at all.
A soft rod will be 90 degrees a lot quicker than a stiff rod will be. When it's 90 degrees, the rod is shorter, so it's way easier to put more pressure on. The same principal as holding a heavy weight out full arm length is a lot harder than holding it close to your body.