In reply to Post #167
I can see your point and agree with the timings however lots of people will be travelling to France on an Amber status when France give them the green light. I personally will be doing the calculations for July as i am fortunate to get lots of paid holiday which reduces the burden and i can clear the Mrs list of homely duties whilst isolating. The extra cost of 2 x PCR tests and an extra week's holiday will be a mere inconvenience to some people. The cost of the test is coming down daily and in a few months you'll be able to get them for less than £100 the pair which for some people will be a price worth paying. I say 2 as there has been a suggestion on here from Dave that the French test is often free and you can test again 5 days in for early release once home. If, as most do, you arrive home Saturday afternoon you can send your test off Thursday afternoon and should receive it back before work Monday. Even 3 tests will be value for some.
The interesting part for me and the deal breaker will be whether venues in France start to deny a re booking as you can physically get there, you just don't want to. This has been the case in previous lockdowns when we were required to quarantine on return for 10 days. Would like to here from lake owners on this. Jim Everiss from Moulin Du Mee is generally level headed and on this thread.
I can see your point and agree with the timings however lots of people will be travelling to France on an Amber status when France give them the green light. I personally will be doing the calculations for July as i am fortunate to get lots of paid holiday which reduces the burden and i can clear the Mrs list of homely duties whilst isolating. The extra cost of 2 x PCR tests and an extra week's holiday will be a mere inconvenience to some people. The cost of the test is coming down daily and in a few months you'll be able to get them for less than £100 the pair which for some people will be a price worth paying. I say 2 as there has been a suggestion on here from Dave that the French test is often free and you can test again 5 days in for early release once home. If, as most do, you arrive home Saturday afternoon you can send your test off Thursday afternoon and should receive it back before work Monday. Even 3 tests will be value for some.
The interesting part for me and the deal breaker will be whether venues in France start to deny a re booking as you can physically get there, you just don't want to. This has been the case in previous lockdowns when we were required to quarantine on return for 10 days. Would like to here from lake owners on this. Jim Everiss from Moulin Du Mee is generally level headed and on this thread.
In reply to Post #168
I would say owners (majority) did what they could but at this point I am not sure they can keep postponing dates...
I would say owners (majority) did what they could but at this point I am not sure they can keep postponing dates...
In reply to Post #169
Agree that in general owners have been very accommodating. I'm not casting aspersions, just interested to see what the stance will be given that we can, albeit at extra cost, travel to the lake and the fact many owners deemed this as a refusal to go not an instruction in past lockdowns. I know many lake owners and feel very much for their predicament.
Agree that in general owners have been very accommodating. I'm not casting aspersions, just interested to see what the stance will be given that we can, albeit at extra cost, travel to the lake and the fact many owners deemed this as a refusal to go not an instruction in past lockdowns. I know many lake owners and feel very much for their predicament.
In reply to Post #170
Managed to get to france last year and to me this is no different except the goverment requiring pcr test to line the pockets of private companies
We had to self isolate last year we filled I the locator form and out of 7 of us not one was contacted
I will be travelling for my week and like I have stated I paid for all this years trips last year you can get a test for £45 plus by time I go I would have had my 2nd jab so it could be a case that I will not need a pcr test to enter france
Us anglers are less likely to catch it at a lake than all these numbers sitting outside in Soho having food but we are restricted but they can go out in there droves
Managed to get to france last year and to me this is no different except the goverment requiring pcr test to line the pockets of private companies
We had to self isolate last year we filled I the locator form and out of 7 of us not one was contacted
I will be travelling for my week and like I have stated I paid for all this years trips last year you can get a test for £45 plus by time I go I would have had my 2nd jab so it could be a case that I will not need a pcr test to enter france
Us anglers are less likely to catch it at a lake than all these numbers sitting outside in Soho having food but we are restricted but they can go out in there droves
In reply to Post #171
I would imagine owners are just as confused as anglers are at the moment.. saw on the Gigantica fb yesterday that they will open on 22th but they deleted it now so I would guess everybody is seeking more info and alternatives.
I would imagine owners are just as confused as anglers are at the moment.. saw on the Gigantica fb yesterday that they will open on 22th but they deleted it now so I would guess everybody is seeking more info and alternatives.
In reply to Post #172
This is off the gov .uk site and date the 8th may
This is what we need to do pretty straight forward
Travel between the UK and France
Arrivals from the UK do not need to justify an essential reason to enter France. This applies to all air, car, ferry and train passengers. All other measures, detailed below, are in place for those travelling from the UK. The French government strongly advises limiting international travel to a minimum.
Arrivals from the UK will need to complete a ‘sworn statement' (déclaration sur l'honneur) form self-certifying they are not suffering from symptoms associated with coronavirus and have not been in contact with confirmed cases in the preceding fortnight. This can be found on the French government's website.
Testing requirements
All travellers from the UK, including children aged 11 and above, will need to present a negative PCR COVID-19 test result, carried out less than 72 hours before departure.
HGV or van drivers arriving in France from the UK are no longer required to provide a negative COVID-19 test to enter France. The latest information for HGV or van drivers is available here.
You should not use the NHS testing service to get a test in order to facilitate your travel to another country. You should arrange to take a private test from a private coronavirus testing provider.
Self-isolation
Passengers arriving in France from the UK will also be required to self-isolate for seven days on arrival, before taking another PCR test. Exit from this self-isolation period is subject to a negative test result. Find more information on how to get a PCR test in France.
This is off the gov .uk site and date the 8th may
This is what we need to do pretty straight forward
Travel between the UK and France
Arrivals from the UK do not need to justify an essential reason to enter France. This applies to all air, car, ferry and train passengers. All other measures, detailed below, are in place for those travelling from the UK. The French government strongly advises limiting international travel to a minimum.
Arrivals from the UK will need to complete a ‘sworn statement' (déclaration sur l'honneur) form self-certifying they are not suffering from symptoms associated with coronavirus and have not been in contact with confirmed cases in the preceding fortnight. This can be found on the French government's website.
Testing requirements
All travellers from the UK, including children aged 11 and above, will need to present a negative PCR COVID-19 test result, carried out less than 72 hours before departure.
HGV or van drivers arriving in France from the UK are no longer required to provide a negative COVID-19 test to enter France. The latest information for HGV or van drivers is available here.
You should not use the NHS testing service to get a test in order to facilitate your travel to another country. You should arrange to take a private test from a private coronavirus testing provider.
Self-isolation
Passengers arriving in France from the UK will also be required to self-isolate for seven days on arrival, before taking another PCR test. Exit from this self-isolation period is subject to a negative test result. Find more information on how to get a PCR test in France.
In reply to Post #167
It is likely to be a practical and realistic option for some and not for others. France being in the amber zone is what most people thought would happen. The doom mongers will likely continue to be negative whilst others will take the opportunity to go.
Fishery owners can't continue to roll over bookings so I suspect some tough decisions will have to be made.
It is likely to be a practical and realistic option for some and not for others. France being in the amber zone is what most people thought would happen. The doom mongers will likely continue to be negative whilst others will take the opportunity to go.
Fishery owners can't continue to roll over bookings so I suspect some tough decisions will have to be made.
So if your a fisherman and plan on going soon and you drive a van you don't need a test ???
In reply to Post #175
Would be great but i should imagine that's on freight???
Would be great but i should imagine that's on freight???
I know because if that's the case I would hire a van as it would work out much much cheaper 
In reply to Post #177
I'm guessing they might see through that maybe you can make up some bull**** about a work party?
Simple fact is people will start taking the piss and we go back to lockdown.
I think the venues simply couldn't rearrange again.
It's going to be October IMO
I'm guessing they might see through that maybe you can make up some bull**** about a work party?
Simple fact is people will start taking the piss and we go back to lockdown.
I think the venues simply couldn't rearrange again.
It's going to be October IMO
In reply to Post #178
How can you say october as people are planning on going out on 22nd or do you mean travel without testing etc
How can you say october as people are planning on going out on 22nd or do you mean travel without testing etc
In reply to Post #1
I have been in conversation today with a French lake owner who assures me that my 2 week trip from 5th June will go ahead as France will be Green by then due to the fact that France has vaccinated 17 million people and is currently vaccinating 500000 people per day. The owner also stated that Bars and Cinemas are opening on 19th May and that all will be well for my trip.
The concerns I raised with said lake owner about quarantine on this side were ushered away with the 100% certainty that they will be on the green list by then and no quarantine required. I was also told that there would be no further chance of my trip being moved as a result of this certainty.
As party organiser, I am left with the complete drama of what if's right up until our departure time.
I have been in conversation today with a French lake owner who assures me that my 2 week trip from 5th June will go ahead as France will be Green by then due to the fact that France has vaccinated 17 million people and is currently vaccinating 500000 people per day. The owner also stated that Bars and Cinemas are opening on 19th May and that all will be well for my trip.
The concerns I raised with said lake owner about quarantine on this side were ushered away with the 100% certainty that they will be on the green list by then and no quarantine required. I was also told that there would be no further chance of my trip being moved as a result of this certainty.
As party organiser, I am left with the complete drama of what if's right up until our departure time.
In reply to Post #180
How can he be certain.
France is not vaccinating anything like 500k a day. Thats bollox.
How can he be certain.
France is not vaccinating anything like 500k a day. Thats bollox.
In reply to Post #179
Unrestricted access to France ie without the need to quarantine either this side or that (or both) will be the Autumn in my opinion.
At Frances current situation and vaccination rates its extremely unlikely that the UK Government will take France out of Amber until then. Its a simple mathematical calculation by assuming they follow the same path as we did.
France has been slow with the vaccination. We started in December (or January in earnest, and picked up pace late Feb). The NHS did an incredible job but here we are 5 months later and we are still not at heard immunity. Many people haven't had their 2nd dose (I think only 16 or 17m have had both).
If France manage to go at the same rate we went at (unlikely) they will get to where we are NOW at about mid August. (thats only 3 months away). Given a greater level of reluctance for the vaccination in France, and its bigger, and they dont have the same level of access to the vaccination we had, i consider it will take them longer.
Until they (France) reach a point at where we are now they are going to stay amber.
Just do a quick mathematical calculation. Given populations are similar in size its not difficult.
People are being far to optimistic.
Unrestricted access to France ie without the need to quarantine either this side or that (or both) will be the Autumn in my opinion.
At Frances current situation and vaccination rates its extremely unlikely that the UK Government will take France out of Amber until then. Its a simple mathematical calculation by assuming they follow the same path as we did.
France has been slow with the vaccination. We started in December (or January in earnest, and picked up pace late Feb). The NHS did an incredible job but here we are 5 months later and we are still not at heard immunity. Many people haven't had their 2nd dose (I think only 16 or 17m have had both).
If France manage to go at the same rate we went at (unlikely) they will get to where we are NOW at about mid August. (thats only 3 months away). Given a greater level of reluctance for the vaccination in France, and its bigger, and they dont have the same level of access to the vaccination we had, i consider it will take them longer.
Until they (France) reach a point at where we are now they are going to stay amber.
Just do a quick mathematical calculation. Given populations are similar in size its not difficult.
People are being far to optimistic.