In reply to Post #145
It was late and spell check was doing its job lol
It was late and spell check was doing its job lol
In reply to Post #144
100% it's not just gossip i've been offered it myself more then once. I don't think the name of the chemical should ever come out because all you have to do is look at the amount of views this thread has had compared to how many users have commented. So many people are trying desperately to get there hands on it, and it is expensive if you compare it to other liquids on the market as prices vary from £50-70 for 15ml. However 1ml can transform your session so its rather inexpensive when you think some numpties use a full bottle of Korda Goo a session thinking it gives them an edge at £12 a pop.
100% it's not just gossip i've been offered it myself more then once. I don't think the name of the chemical should ever come out because all you have to do is look at the amount of views this thread has had compared to how many users have commented. So many people are trying desperately to get there hands on it, and it is expensive if you compare it to other liquids on the market as prices vary from £50-70 for 15ml. However 1ml can transform your session so its rather inexpensive when you think some numpties use a full bottle of Korda Goo a session thinking it gives them an edge at £12 a pop.
Heres some links that I have found that aren't a million miles from the truth, the Carp Chronicals Podcast is 100% bang on and then there is the Munch Baits post on facebook. The hilarious thing about that is absolutely no names were mentioned in the post but a certain someone (known for podcasts 
) chirps up in the comment section digging himself into an even bigger hole. I have also been sent a link to a blog Hobo Armour have done but this doesn't give you too much info that hasn't already been said. I think all of these companies want to highlight the issue without giving the general public the name as it won't help anything and also its massive click bait. Jonny Mac also did a post that he took down because a witch hunt began on his post and people were just accusing everyone with no evidence what so ever. Some one has a big hit of fish and then all of a sudden there using hormone, which we know isn't true. All the people who are denying it and pulling out the Donald Trump fake news card are all financially invested in catching fish so in my eyes there opinions don't mean ****. I've worked in the industry now for 15 years and this is 100% not fake news. If I get sent anymore links I will put them on here.
Carp Chronicals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgUpAAKduU
Hobo Armour Blog: https://hoboarmour.com/blogs/news/carp-hormone-rumours
Munch Baits Facebook Post: https://www.facebook.com/munchbaitsltd/photos/a.790227854420077/4363268880449272
P.S Go on YouTube and search Carp Hormone and look at the faces that keep appearing consistently in videos with no reference to Carp Hormones what so ever hahaha. Obviously not proof theses guys are using it but I just thought it was funny.
) chirps up in the comment section digging himself into an even bigger hole. I have also been sent a link to a blog Hobo Armour have done but this doesn't give you too much info that hasn't already been said. I think all of these companies want to highlight the issue without giving the general public the name as it won't help anything and also its massive click bait. Jonny Mac also did a post that he took down because a witch hunt began on his post and people were just accusing everyone with no evidence what so ever. Some one has a big hit of fish and then all of a sudden there using hormone, which we know isn't true. All the people who are denying it and pulling out the Donald Trump fake news card are all financially invested in catching fish so in my eyes there opinions don't mean ****. I've worked in the industry now for 15 years and this is 100% not fake news. If I get sent anymore links I will put them on here.Carp Chronicals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgUpAAKduU
Hobo Armour Blog: https://hoboarmour.com/blogs/news/carp-hormone-rumours
Munch Baits Facebook Post: https://www.facebook.com/munchbaitsltd/photos/a.790227854420077/4363268880449272
P.S Go on YouTube and search Carp Hormone and look at the faces that keep appearing consistently in videos with no reference to Carp Hormones what so ever hahaha. Obviously not proof theses guys are using it but I just thought it was funny.
In reply to Post #154
Hadnt seen the Hobo Armour one..... People selling vile's of salt water in essex and claiming its the "substance"
Would love to know how many have been mugged off with that and how much they paid
Hadnt seen the Hobo Armour one..... People selling vile's of salt water in essex and claiming its the "substance"
Would love to know how many have been mugged off with that and how much they paid
In reply to Post #155
I've not heard that one but it wouldn't surprise me and its a genius idea if its true. Its not like people can go to the police
I've not heard that one but it wouldn't surprise me and its a genius idea if its true. Its not like people can go to the police
In reply to Post #156
Says it in the hobo armour blog post that you linked
Says it in the hobo armour blog post that you linked
In reply to Post #143
People use it in bodybuilding.
People use it in bodybuilding.
In reply to Post #157
I mean I haven't heard it from anyone I know to back up what their saying.
I mean I haven't heard it from anyone I know to back up what their saying.
In reply to Post #154
I think we all know its some form of PGF2A(please correct me if I'm way off could be any of DALMAZIN/ESTRUMATE/LUTALYSE/CLOPROSTENOL et al). why keep the substance name hidden? people need to know what's going on. near on impossible to get hold of anyway unless you have a contact who would be providing you with it illegally via prescription.
I think we all know its some form of PGF2A(please correct me if I'm way off could be any of DALMAZIN/ESTRUMATE/LUTALYSE/CLOPROSTENOL et al). why keep the substance name hidden? people need to know what's going on. near on impossible to get hold of anyway unless you have a contact who would be providing you with it illegally via prescription.
In reply to Post #160
Exactly why it needs to be named , not sure why people who say they are opposed to it are so insistent it needs to be kept quiet unless for an ulterior motive
Exactly why it needs to be named , not sure why people who say they are opposed to it are so insistent it needs to be kept quiet unless for an ulterior motive
In reply to Post #161
You have to work to your lowest common denominator, which unfortunately is an arse hole who is going to try and find this drug and saying the name in here isn't going to make an ounce of difference because even with the name the lakes won't be able to practically test for it at lakes without a lab. So saying Chemical X is banned on a lake rule board won't do anything, but letting thousands of anglers know the name will have a huge impact. The only thing saying the name will do is allow people to know what to ask for and there is plenty of bent vets and people within the desired field for the drug who are selling it not aware of the impact it will have.
You have to work to your lowest common denominator, which unfortunately is an arse hole who is going to try and find this drug and saying the name in here isn't going to make an ounce of difference because even with the name the lakes won't be able to practically test for it at lakes without a lab. So saying Chemical X is banned on a lake rule board won't do anything, but letting thousands of anglers know the name will have a huge impact. The only thing saying the name will do is allow people to know what to ask for and there is plenty of bent vets and people within the desired field for the drug who are selling it not aware of the impact it will have.
In reply to Post #162
Or maybe naming it allows people to do some research on it, and also to highlight it to the relevant authorities to get it dealt with properly. It will highlight what is very had practice to the vetenary industry and could mean a tightening of the rules there, and more severe consequences for any get dishing it out in this way. Keeping stuff quiet looks very suspicious,as does continually saying it should be kept quiet
Or maybe naming it allows people to do some research on it, and also to highlight it to the relevant authorities to get it dealt with properly. It will highlight what is very had practice to the vetenary industry and could mean a tightening of the rules there, and more severe consequences for any get dishing it out in this way. Keeping stuff quiet looks very suspicious,as does continually saying it should be kept quiet
In reply to Post #163
Do research on it? Unless you're a medical professionally what research are you going to do? If the name was readily available then thousands of anglers will be trying to get it this week. Thousands will not be able to get but I bet you hundreds will and before anything is actually done about the supply of it into fishing industry the effects could wiped lakes out all so the government can say "You can't use this in fishing". The risk for saying the name far out weighs keep it to those who already know. We will just have to agree to disagree on the matter.
Do research on it? Unless you're a medical professionally what research are you going to do? If the name was readily available then thousands of anglers will be trying to get it this week. Thousands will not be able to get but I bet you hundreds will and before anything is actually done about the supply of it into fishing industry the effects could wiped lakes out all so the government can say "You can't use this in fishing". The risk for saying the name far out weighs keep it to those who already know. We will just have to agree to disagree on the matter.
In reply to Post #163
Naming it will give the anti's all the ammo they need; let's not let that happen..
Naming it will give the anti's all the ammo they need; let's not let that happen..
In reply to Post #164
All in your opinion which you are entitled to. People can research things very easily these days, the internet has all the info if you look far enough. And then therefore they can see the potential for harm themselves, rather than just being told it's harmful by some guy on a forum.
All in your opinion which you are entitled to. People can research things very easily these days, the internet has all the info if you look far enough. And then therefore they can see the potential for harm themselves, rather than just being told it's harmful by some guy on a forum.