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Tinhead Tinhead
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#136 9 Jul 2020 00:31
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we are facing unprecedented challenges and the sh*t that comes with it

I think we all know this. I know a lot of furloughed people and they are ****ting themselves. No good Sunak shrugging his shoulders and announcing there's nothing I can do we are all ****ed.
mal mal
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#137 9 Jul 2020 10:07
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True - but pretending that a 6 month work placement is the fix for 16-25 year olds isn't the answer either. I know I sound negative but with so many companies honestly saying that they will need less staff, it's simply a political move... Maybe I'll be proved wrong and all of the placements will turn into jobs?

I wish I did have the answer - any word from Average Joe?
ocelot ocelot
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#138 9 Jul 2020 10:07
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I think you know what has to happen. The most important thing is always getting your goods and services to market. That's how economies work. We must get a good economic deal with the EU our biggest market. China has chosen to put the squeeze on us now over Hong Kong, knowing we're gonna be knocking on the door for a trade deal. Guess what'll be top of their agenda? The USA has its own issues and the fallout of foreign and domestic policy of this administration has yet to fully unwind.
Hopefully this government are realists and not idealists.
fishie fishie
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#139 9 Jul 2020 18:41
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But 6 months employment looks better on a Cv than 6 months sitting on arse
scozza
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#140 9 Jul 2020 19:09
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Interesting what you say about kids Mal since you are dealing with all cases on a daily basis I guess. Once you see them walk out of the door that's it. Some will swim, some will sink

I think leaving education up to the age of 18 minimum for example should be standard for all, possibly school, college course or trade training minimum etc. A couple of years up to 20 would be nice on a cheap labour scheme to get kids employed, gets the kids experience and helps businesses to be competitive by paying a percentage of lower set wages. I think kids going out into the big wide world at 16 is crazy for me, they are still kids.

We need to get our skills up to attract business and provide the skills and quality they are looking for, build in England not Europe for example should be the driver

It's a bit like the old industrial revolution at the moment, lots of investment into automation, predominantly to reduce the human error element and head count to make them competitive, where as China and others are still big on head count and just exploiting people, paying them peanuts. All the profit is predominantly on reducing labour costs ffs. Not good business at all but if you want to compete...

The skills set will have to change too in the future

There are jobs about, my daughter was doing an accounts course which has fell on its arse. She is working at Tesco the moment order picking, only thing that pisses me off, she's loving it. Which at the moment fair play but I wouldn't like to think it was a long term option, her choice of course. There are jobs about but whether they pay enough to suit a persons livelihood is the problem sadly
Tinhead Tinhead
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#141 9 Jul 2020 19:39
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Once you see them walk out of the door that's it. Some will swim, some will sink
None of them will have a chance, the drama queen would've turned them all into snowflakes by then.
scozza
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#142 9 Jul 2020 20:11
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I reckon he will do a good job, he's a man with a passion, we know that
Tinhead Tinhead
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#143 9 Jul 2020 20:45
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Hippy with passion. Oh those poor kids
Jon Jon
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#144 9 Jul 2020 20:56
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Once you see them walk out of the door that's it. Some will swim, some will sink


You must live REALLY close to a canal.

mal mal
Posts: 8,986
#145 9 Jul 2020 22:48
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sod off you two

besides, they're all going to be 'youtubers' and make millions from posting cat videos...
scozza
Posts: 18,420
#146 10 Jul 2020 10:38
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I'm thinking beach house Jon

Was going to say hut but people might think there is some underlying racial agenda

Need to really think and filter everything we say nowadays
scozza
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#147 10 Jul 2020 19:20
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Anybody watching the one show?

Something I have discussed with my mates before. Two words. Community spirit, that's what's missing

I grew up in a pit village with working men and a pub culture but everybody on the street knew everybody and helped everybody, we were all close. I think we have completely lost it

One show tonight there was a street where the neighbours had ended up sitting outside their houses talking to each other. Straight away, bloke mentions a lad banging everything with his hands, buy him some drums for Christmas, straight away thought he had offended the Asians as they might not celebrate Christmas. Asian woman says, she would not be offended, that was nice

That could be what's missing, the community bonds, everybody was in it together, no individualism and I think modern communities and house builds don't help this

We don't know or appreciate other communities values
mal mal
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#148 10 Jul 2020 23:10
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you make a good point scozza

I am lucky to live in a street that still has that sense of community. local pub with a proper old school feel about it. neighbours who look out for each other. all the kids play out on the field / park out the back. my cat gets fed in at least 2 other houses!

makes a massive difference to your everyday
scozza
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#149 11 Jul 2020 05:57
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Agree Mal

Gone around me sadly, I suspect other places too
Jon Jon
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#150 11 Jul 2020 09:48
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Firm with links to Gove and Cummings given Covid-19 contract without open tender

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/10/firm-with-links-to-gove-and-cummings-given-covid-19-contract-without-open-tender?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Joe Normal would've done it free.

PPE contracts to pest control firms, millions on a useless app to Cummings' mates.

No wonder they haven't published the Russia Report ... Looks like they've adopted Russian government practices as their model. Crooked *******s.
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