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Work Partys and the consequences. (60 posts / 6,716 views)
Teddybare
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Post #1 24 Mar 2023 17:43
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Abusinessman could lose his £2million fishing lakes as an angler he employed won a £490,000 payout at the High Court after falling off a ladder - resulting in a series of injuries - while he was undertaking work at the property.

Ricki Sartin, 53, was helping to cut back a tree at Norwich's freshwater Layfield Lakes when his ladder was struck by a branch in June 2017.

The impact knocked him to the ground, and as a result he sustained a number of injuries including a broken hip, wrist and ribs.

Grandfather Mr Sartin had also agreed to do odd jobs with other anglers after being offered a waiver of his annual fishing permit by the lakes' owner, Darren Layfield, 48.

However, he sued his former friend after accusing him of using him as 'cheap labour' - despite being unqualified and having 'no training or expertise in the kind of maintenance work' that was being requested of him.

Now, Mr Sartin has been awarded in around £490,000 in compensation.

The court also heard that Mr Layfield could be in danger of losing his lakes, after being handed a £159,000 lawyers' bill on top of the compensation payout.

Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #2 24 Mar 2023 17:57
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In reply to Post #1
I dont know about you, but I would jump off a ladder for £490k.
scar
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Post #3 24 Mar 2023 18:19
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In reply to Post #2
A good mate you are....
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #4 24 Mar 2023 19:16
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In reply to Post #1
Happy to get cheaper/free fishing, then fecks up and cries about it....
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #5 24 Mar 2023 19:21
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My thoughts also.

I now know why my last syndicate didn't have work parties and shut the lake for a week to carry out repairs/work, clearly for insurance purposes. Can see more fisheries doing this now. Hope they do for their sake.

However, he sued his former friend after accusing him of using him as 'cheap labour' - despite being unqualified and having 'no training or expertise in the kind of maintenance work' that was being requested of him.

Former friend....
tazi tazi
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Post #6 24 Mar 2023 19:25
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I'd have rung his phecking neck.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #7 24 Mar 2023 19:33
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In reply to Post #5
how many lakes have work parties? 99.9% i'd say, i know i do.

after this, it makes you wonder doesn't it, and work wont get carried out as non profit lakes (mine) couldnt afford professional help. That then leaves work not being carried out and to the detriment of the syndicates
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #8 24 Mar 2023 19:37
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oh I know mate, the syndicate I was on prior to the last one had one every month !!

Work parties are all part of fishing to me, it's been mentioned on here on previous threads in the past, but after 3 years of work parties every month (I was a Bailiff) it was nice not to have to do one
Teddybare
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Post #9 24 Mar 2023 19:42
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In reply to Post #7
Big difference between a true syndicate where you are all equal partners on a not for profit basis and a members only water run and owned by a single individual or group for profit.

If this happened on a true syndicate the court case wouldn't have happened, you'd be basically taking yourself to court.

A lot on here don't understand what a true syndicate is.

Never done a work party in my life on water's such as the latter, if the owner wants to make money then pay for the upkeep. On syndicates in the 80s and 90s I did every party.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #10 24 Mar 2023 19:57
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Mine is pure NON profit

every single member pays the same, and has a complete say in the way its run. I host an AGM, where the account are shared for info and input. Every single penny goes back into the lake and is totally transparent
Teddybare
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Post #11 24 Mar 2023 20:02
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In reply to Post #10
Sorry post wasn't aimed at you, what you describe seems the perfect set up 👍
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #12 24 Mar 2023 20:06
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Trouble is that clubs etc. don't think of work parties as actual work.
All clubs etc should have a full risk assessment written and method statements in place, the same as if you were asking someone to work on a building site. You definitely shouldn't be allowing unqualified people to be up a ladder with a chainsaw. I know we all naturally think that personal responsibility should trump all, but in just doesn't in the modern world. It's why I do 99% of the work myself at my place.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #13 24 Mar 2023 20:11
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no need to apologise mate, i was merely saying that my lake is headed by me (ive got a big gob) and the members have all the say.

i run it based on their subs contributions, its my job to ensure that the books balance, their money is invested back into the lake in the correct way. i provide options and steer them with various ideas. Ultimately, they decide, is delegate.

Ive always said "its our lake"
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #14 24 Mar 2023 20:13
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In reply to Post #12
maybe we should change the terminology to

"Help parties" OR "Volunteers Parties"
Teddybare
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Post #15 24 Mar 2023 20:16
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In reply to Post #14
All you need is volunteers to sign a waiver, much like everyone does when they purchase a car park ticket, not that many would know that.
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