So I've been looking at converting my current JRC Contact barrow using a kit from BCUK or Global Angling however it's going to cost me around £500 to do so as I will need something to house the battery and electronics so a pannier would be the best option.
The Nash Tackle power barrow is basically the same layout and size as my JRC with the added advantage of being able to remove the handles. The size of the JRC is perfect as I can wheel it straight into the back of my car so the Nash Tackle would fit the same requirements there but I also like the fact that the Nash barrows have dedicated battery housings above the wheel which I feel would also greatly improve weight distribution over a side pannier.
I can get a Nash Tackle barrow for around £700 and sell JRC Contact meaning it's only really cost me £100/£150 more than converting my own. My question is what is there to look out for on the Nash barrows? I'm aware the motor is a 150w instead of a 350w supplied in the DIY conversion kits. Obviously the Nash batteries are only standard lead acid batteries where as I could have lighter lipo batteries with the DIY kits, can the Nash barrows be converted to lipo's? I'm surprised that you have to physically removed the batteries and charge individually, can't a charging lead be fitted and charged using a 24v charger?
I've read comments about the connection plug on the handles being susceptible to breaking?
Any advice or experience would be appreciated, I know there not cheap but I don't think any option is going to be realistically?
The Nash Tackle power barrow is basically the same layout and size as my JRC with the added advantage of being able to remove the handles. The size of the JRC is perfect as I can wheel it straight into the back of my car so the Nash Tackle would fit the same requirements there but I also like the fact that the Nash barrows have dedicated battery housings above the wheel which I feel would also greatly improve weight distribution over a side pannier.
I can get a Nash Tackle barrow for around £700 and sell JRC Contact meaning it's only really cost me £100/£150 more than converting my own. My question is what is there to look out for on the Nash barrows? I'm aware the motor is a 150w instead of a 350w supplied in the DIY conversion kits. Obviously the Nash batteries are only standard lead acid batteries where as I could have lighter lipo batteries with the DIY kits, can the Nash barrows be converted to lipo's? I'm surprised that you have to physically removed the batteries and charge individually, can't a charging lead be fitted and charged using a 24v charger?
I've read comments about the connection plug on the handles being susceptible to breaking?
Any advice or experience would be appreciated, I know there not cheap but I don't think any option is going to be realistically?
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Hope you dont have any hills as the Nash barrow is a bit underpowered according to the user reviews I have seen
I will need something to house the battery and electronics s
not sure what your imagination is generating but the reality is its just a SMALL BAG that everything fits in
Hope you dont have any hills as the Nash barrow is a bit underpowered according to the user reviews I have seen
I will need something to house the battery and electronics s
not sure what your imagination is generating but the reality is its just a SMALL BAG that everything fits in
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Thanks for the reply, yes the reason for buying is due to a big hill when leaving the lake. I have tried another members Nash Tackle power barrow briefly on the flats but also unladen sadly, you know what it's like when it's someone else's.
I guess the advantage with the global kit is that it does appear to be a compact instillation using the lipo batteries, that smaller bag wouldn't take too much to mount to the framework either as I need the space in the main compartment.
Maybe I need to look into the Global kit more, I'm struggling to get a response back from them at the moment.
Thanks for the reply, yes the reason for buying is due to a big hill when leaving the lake. I have tried another members Nash Tackle power barrow briefly on the flats but also unladen sadly, you know what it's like when it's someone else's.
I guess the advantage with the global kit is that it does appear to be a compact instillation using the lipo batteries, that smaller bag wouldn't take too much to mount to the framework either as I need the space in the main compartment.
Maybe I need to look into the Global kit more, I'm struggling to get a response back from them at the moment.
The global kit gets good reviews on here.I have the BCUK kit it's excellent quality if you don't mind waiting.
I've just looked on BCUK website they've now released there own Barrow range,not cheap though.
I've just looked on BCUK website they've now released there own Barrow range,not cheap though.
In reply to Post #3
PHONE THEM
PHONE THEM
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Yeah I do like the look of the ED1+ although from what I can see you still have to comprise some of the pannier bag to accommodate the electronics which I feel is poor for a thousand pound barrow.
Yeah I do like the look of the ED1+ although from what I can see you still have to comprise some of the pannier bag to accommodate the electronics which I feel is poor for a thousand pound barrow.
In reply to Post #3
I've had the nash one for a few years and when you're going up a steep hill you do need to push it a bit but it will get up there without too much trouble. Haven't had any issues with mine, fished Virginia Water for a season and the power barrow was a godsend.
I've had the nash one for a few years and when you're going up a steep hill you do need to push it a bit but it will get up there without too much trouble. Haven't had any issues with mine, fished Virginia Water for a season and the power barrow was a godsend.
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That's good to hear, what model do you have? I discovered yesterday that the Nash barrows are actually only 150w motors, not the 250w I first thought.
That's good to hear, what model do you have? I discovered yesterday that the Nash barrows are actually only 150w motors, not the 250w I first thought.
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I've got the Metro. Picked it up brand new for £600.
I've got the Metro. Picked it up brand new for £600.
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Ive got a power porter xtreme and a nash metro power barrow both are great and habve advantages you can get more on the pp but thats mainly due to the size of the frame
Neither will rally up a hill if thats what you are expecting dont - they will go up hills but youll need to push them a bit and obviously dependant how much kit you are taking
I use the nash 80% of the time as I dont take loads personaly
Ive got a power porter xtreme and a nash metro power barrow both are great and habve advantages you can get more on the pp but thats mainly due to the size of the frame
Neither will rally up a hill if thats what you are expecting dont - they will go up hills but youll need to push them a bit and obviously dependant how much kit you are taking
I use the nash 80% of the time as I dont take loads personaly
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I've had my Nash Trax Metro Power for almost a couple of years now and its been solid.
Don't believe all the bs reviews about hills (soz Gerry they are bs!) - check out my review in the reviews section and you'll see how much I've been lugging and the slope angle it can handle (even on its 150W motor)
My only issues were at the outset as I was hamfisted with the spade end connectors and broke them - these were replaced instantly. The handle connector is small and the pins can be bent if your not careful / don't align them properly - I've put white tippex on mine so I can push them together perfectly, every time even with my rapidly failing eyesight.
The battery and transformer storage on these barrows is excellent - water tight with a hard lid and positioned centrally so you still get the use of several underbags / panniers. The only design downfall is if you never unload the barrow and leave it in a van - even on standard batteries the useable life is great however you have to unload to get at the batteries to remove and recharge - would be better if nash added a zip so you can achieve this - was thinking Andy Army could probs do a adapted version easily.
If I was on a budget and had a barrow I was 'used to' I'd probably go for a GAP kit these days (more power / lipo options) however the Nash Metro is a neat (no cable tied external cables) and compact solution with more than enough power for your average 48hr UK Carper . .
I've had my Nash Trax Metro Power for almost a couple of years now and its been solid.
Don't believe all the bs reviews about hills (soz Gerry they are bs!) - check out my review in the reviews section and you'll see how much I've been lugging and the slope angle it can handle (even on its 150W motor)
My only issues were at the outset as I was hamfisted with the spade end connectors and broke them - these were replaced instantly. The handle connector is small and the pins can be bent if your not careful / don't align them properly - I've put white tippex on mine so I can push them together perfectly, every time even with my rapidly failing eyesight.
The battery and transformer storage on these barrows is excellent - water tight with a hard lid and positioned centrally so you still get the use of several underbags / panniers. The only design downfall is if you never unload the barrow and leave it in a van - even on standard batteries the useable life is great however you have to unload to get at the batteries to remove and recharge - would be better if nash added a zip so you can achieve this - was thinking Andy Army could probs do a adapted version easily.
If I was on a budget and had a barrow I was 'used to' I'd probably go for a GAP kit these days (more power / lipo options) however the Nash Metro is a neat (no cable tied external cables) and compact solution with more than enough power for your average 48hr UK Carper . .
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Genuinely Glad its doing what you wanted it to do mate
BUT on the Facebook dedicated groups for modding and using powered barrows it gets slated all the time ? a couple of people dumped the 150w motor and replaced it with an Aliexpress 350w powered wheel and say its completely chalk and cheese
I have never heard anyone defending it on there but plenty moaning its underpowered
Genuinely Glad its doing what you wanted it to do mate
BUT on the Facebook dedicated groups for modding and using powered barrows it gets slated all the time ? a couple of people dumped the 150w motor and replaced it with an Aliexpress 350w powered wheel and say its completely chalk and cheese
I have never heard anyone defending it on there but plenty moaning its underpowered
In reply to Post #11
Many thanks for the detailed response, the marking on the plug sounds a good idea to help prevent the pins from getting bent.
I understand exactly what you are saying reference the battery charging access, surly a extension lead can be installed similar to a motorcycle battery save removing the seat to charge, and use a 24v smart charger?
I'll take a look at your review 👍🏻
Many thanks for the detailed response, the marking on the plug sounds a good idea to help prevent the pins from getting bent.
I understand exactly what you are saying reference the battery charging access, surly a extension lead can be installed similar to a motorcycle battery save removing the seat to charge, and use a 24v smart charger?
I'll take a look at your review 👍🏻
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I can only imagine they are possibly overloading it will silly amounts of tackle which may presumably put more load on a 150W over a 350W - plus don't forget peeps that haven't shelled out the £ (and I agree it was silly money at the time but it was my 50th so I treated myself!) also need to justify their own purchase decisions; hence that site is populated by a big DIY brigade who revel/focus in doing things better and for less!
Being honest had I have waited I would have probably gone for a conversion - HOWEVER I didn't and I can honestly say (and you know I'm not one to BS Gerry) its a good bit of kit that's more than adequate for the typical UK Carper - not only that the Metro variant is actually a pretty compact footprint so you can use it almost as flexibly (eg rivers for barbel) as a Porterlite - which I have been doing (now use the Power Metro everywhere)
I do find it interesting that the BCUK pricing for their standalone product is now more than Nash - admittedly the components are arguably superior and the Cotswold Aquarius collaboration is nice however I'm not sure the design itself is any better (especially the component housing) and on that basis pay the extra £200 notes for the privilege! You pays your money etc . . . . .
I can only imagine they are possibly overloading it will silly amounts of tackle which may presumably put more load on a 150W over a 350W - plus don't forget peeps that haven't shelled out the £ (and I agree it was silly money at the time but it was my 50th so I treated myself!) also need to justify their own purchase decisions; hence that site is populated by a big DIY brigade who revel/focus in doing things better and for less!
Being honest had I have waited I would have probably gone for a conversion - HOWEVER I didn't and I can honestly say (and you know I'm not one to BS Gerry) its a good bit of kit that's more than adequate for the typical UK Carper - not only that the Metro variant is actually a pretty compact footprint so you can use it almost as flexibly (eg rivers for barbel) as a Porterlite - which I have been doing (now use the Power Metro everywhere)
I do find it interesting that the BCUK pricing for their standalone product is now more than Nash - admittedly the components are arguably superior and the Cotswold Aquarius collaboration is nice however I'm not sure the design itself is any better (especially the component housing) and on that basis pay the extra £200 notes for the privilege! You pays your money etc . . . . .
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Totally agree with all the below from Belch (thanks for the tippex tip) it's the one bit I find isn't great on the nash but I don't take my handles off so it's not an issue for me - the housing centrally is much better than on my Porter also
Social media has a stiffy for slating certain brands and that's exactly how I see it
The nash metro I've had has done all I wanted it to do and as he alludes to is basically a Porterlite (BRILLIANT BARROWS) with power, my power Porter xtreme is just that extreme and overkill but is great if I'm taking loads as an example
I know lads with Pp, conversion kits and nash versions on my syndicate and there much of a muchness in my opinion just a case of what suits your needs
As for being underpowered it pulls more than the power Porter extreme and ultimately
Do we really need lipo batteries superior power etc etc it's ultimately down to the user but they all have there place
Totally agree with all the below from Belch (thanks for the tippex tip) it's the one bit I find isn't great on the nash but I don't take my handles off so it's not an issue for me - the housing centrally is much better than on my Porter also
Social media has a stiffy for slating certain brands and that's exactly how I see it
The nash metro I've had has done all I wanted it to do and as he alludes to is basically a Porterlite (BRILLIANT BARROWS) with power, my power Porter xtreme is just that extreme and overkill but is great if I'm taking loads as an example
I know lads with Pp, conversion kits and nash versions on my syndicate and there much of a muchness in my opinion just a case of what suits your needs
As for being underpowered it pulls more than the power Porter extreme and ultimately
Do we really need lipo batteries superior power etc etc it's ultimately down to the user but they all have there place