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Red Seed Mix (24 posts / 3,722 views)
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
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Post #1 1 Jan 2022 22:42
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Hi
Can anyone recommend a good red seed base mix
Used to use Hutchies red seed back in the day
Cheers
Mark
Bren987 Bren987
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Post #2 2 Jan 2022 09:20
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In reply to Post #1
What about quality baits?
https://qualitybaits.co.uk/products/50-50-spicy-red-bird-base-mix
AnglingDays&Way AnglingDays&Way
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Post #3 2 Jan 2022 09:38
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In reply to Post #1
Original old skool Hutchy red seed mixes -

Red Bird Food 1 =

3oz Nectarblend
3oz PTX
2oz Calcium Caseinate
2oz Robin Red

Red Birdfood 2 =

2 oz. ptx
1 oz robin red
1 oz calcium caseinate
2 oz. Full fat soya flour
2 oz lactopro (vitamealo)
1 \ 2 oz hot curry powder
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
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Post #4 2 Jan 2022 10:24
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In reply to Post #3
Thanks chaps
Thanks Peter for the recipes👍
AnglingDays&Way AnglingDays&Way
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Post #5 2 Jan 2022 10:31
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In reply to Post #4
Very simple mixes, but with robin red not being what it was I'd be inclined to use paprika instead plus it would make it a lot more economical from a financial point of view.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #6 2 Jan 2022 10:43
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In reply to Post #4
Baitworks Monster Red... You can buy the basemix in 5kg batches? Could be worth a call to see if there is a discount for larger amounts maybe?
Just a thought if you didn't want to source the separate ingredients as Peter has suggested?
mark1009
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Post #7 2 Jan 2022 11:15
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In reply to Post #1
Have a look at a scientific baits red devil may be suitable.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #8 2 Jan 2022 16:19
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In reply to Post #5
I ve been told robin red aint what it once was, is it different.
mark1009
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Post #9 2 Jan 2022 16:37
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They had to take the Red dye out of it because of a change in regulations. Whether the dye in itself was a major part of the attraction is open to debate. A lot of people say it's not what it was back in the day.
Personally I doubt it's now worth what they charge for it. Indeed if it ever was .
Spike Spike
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Post #10 2 Jan 2022 17:04
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Have a look at the kingfisher version. Certainly stains your hands like the original. I used this in a bait I made with great effect.

But agree paprika is also very good on its own.
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #11 2 Jan 2022 18:22
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In reply to Post #9
It contained cantaxanthin.

Carophyll red is a brand of that, use another source and then it's true it “doesn't” contain it.

Inarguably in every tank test I've done paprika be it sweet, hot or smoked has outperformed RR or KR in terms of getting a positive response from fish, although interestingly all 3 variants have in my experience different optimal inclusion rates, when it comes to colour, if you want a bait more red, I'd suggest a bit of insoluble pigment. That is if it's inclusion is literally to colour
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #12 2 Jan 2022 18:36
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In reply to Post #11
Can you tell me what the robin red ingredient main functions are in a birdfood mix if possible, thanks.
Elltell85 Elltell85
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Post #13 2 Jan 2022 18:44
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In reply to Post #12
paprika and brown sugar.. there's not alot going for it in terms of functions. if I were you then I would just use paprika simply to cut the cost as stated.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #14 2 Jan 2022 19:14
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In reply to Post #13
Thanks
Mozzi Mozzi
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Post #15 3 Jan 2022 02:51
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In reply to Post #12
There is one or two attractive compounds in its make up but I don't use it anymore, the cost doesn't justify it when there is superior products cheaper. its my personal opinion only of course.

it colours, adds a bit of oil etc
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