Just read an article about spodding and is suggesting that for every 4ft of water you should take 1 ft off your clipped up distance, but didn't say anything about rigs, would you then just cast out to the original clipped up distance ?
In reply to Post #1
yes
yes
In reply to Post #2
The 1ft per 4ft of depth is co compensate between where the spod lands and where your rig lands (with swingback) remember it's just a rule of thumb and it will vary depending on the distance you're fishing. Many people don't even bother and has everything clipped up the same. Unless you're an expert in Pythagorean theory I wouldn't worry too much.
The 1ft per 4ft of depth is co compensate between where the spod lands and where your rig lands (with swingback) remember it's just a rule of thumb and it will vary depending on the distance you're fishing. Many people don't even bother and has everything clipped up the same. Unless you're an expert in Pythagorean theory I wouldn't worry too much.
In reply to Post #1
I do 1 off to every 3 foot. I tend to reel in bits of my bait on my hook as I fish in shallow onion weed. That works for me and my casting style it all depends on how you hold the rod on impact and swing back some slowly lower the tip other leave in same place until it hits bottom. That all slightly alters the swing back..... a minefield!!!
I do 1 off to every 3 foot. I tend to reel in bits of my bait on my hook as I fish in shallow onion weed. That works for me and my casting style it all depends on how you hold the rod on impact and swing back some slowly lower the tip other leave in same place until it hits bottom. That all slightly alters the swing back..... a minefield!!!
Just use a marker rod clipped up at your rig distance, pop the float up & spod to it.
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Using Pythagoras Theron, the swing back in 18ft deep water at 100 yds range is negligible( less than 1 yard) plus you've got mono stretch, casting accuracy and other variables. I would worry about it. Clip them all up the same and you will be there or there about....
At a smaller range in shallower water the swing back will be even less.... I am gonna do this in some detail tomorrow and will post my findings......
Using Pythagoras Theron, the swing back in 18ft deep water at 100 yds range is negligible( less than 1 yard) plus you've got mono stretch, casting accuracy and other variables. I would worry about it. Clip them all up the same and you will be there or there about....
At a smaller range in shallower water the swing back will be even less.... I am gonna do this in some detail tomorrow and will post my findings......
In reply to Post #6
Mate I fish elstow on the bars there is accuracy needed to know you are right. And when you get it wrong you certainly know
Mate I fish elstow on the bars there is accuracy needed to know you are right. And when you get it wrong you certainly know
In reply to Post #7
As a quick calculation based on 100yards in 18ft of water.
If you clip up at 100yds and have the rod at 12 o'clock when you clip up you will be fishing at 99.64yards, with swing back etc......, this doesn't take into account any line stretch etc, so you would be 1ft off your spot,
No one is casting at 100yds and is within 1 ft accuracy....your kidding yourself if you think you are. A slightly higher trajectory of the lead etc will also affect your accuracy.
I personally spod to a marker float, but again at 100 yards your at best within 2 yards accuracy.....
If you want it more accurate you will be better off using a bait boat......
As a quick calculation based on 100yards in 18ft of water.
If you clip up at 100yds and have the rod at 12 o'clock when you clip up you will be fishing at 99.64yards, with swing back etc......, this doesn't take into account any line stretch etc, so you would be 1ft off your spot,
No one is casting at 100yds and is within 1 ft accuracy....your kidding yourself if you think you are. A slightly higher trajectory of the lead etc will also affect your accuracy.
I personally spod to a marker float, but again at 100 yards your at best within 2 yards accuracy.....
If you want it more accurate you will be better off using a bait boat......
In reply to Post #8
Explain how I bring in spod mix on my lead and in the weed on my hook then. It is clipped up different from the rods fishing.
Just my personal experience it works for me I know as I cast to a marker too and have swing back to that. If I miss the mark it is pretty clear as the lead goes another 10 foot into the abyss....
Explain how I bring in spod mix on my lead and in the weed on my hook then. It is clipped up different from the rods fishing.
Just my personal experience it works for me I know as I cast to a marker too and have swing back to that. If I miss the mark it is pretty clear as the lead goes another 10 foot into the abyss....
In reply to Post #9
I cant mate, there's too many variables to get an exact science, if what you do works for you and you catch fish, then don't change anything......
Also the spod mix will dissipate when dropping through the water so will wind up with a spread of bait i would guess at a 2-3 yard diameter......(lighter the spod mix /bait the more it could spread)
Potential things that will all have an effect are as follows:
Casting accuracy.
Undertow
Wind
Line stretch
I think there has been a few tackle manufactures whom have looked into this in more detail ( Fox i think but cant be 100% sure). They had a underwater diver and checked the locations of the lead casting to a line clip and came up with the conclusion the swing back is so minimal it's not worth worrying abaout.....
I cant mate, there's too many variables to get an exact science, if what you do works for you and you catch fish, then don't change anything......
Also the spod mix will dissipate when dropping through the water so will wind up with a spread of bait i would guess at a 2-3 yard diameter......(lighter the spod mix /bait the more it could spread)
Potential things that will all have an effect are as follows:
Casting accuracy.
Undertow
Wind
Line stretch
I think there has been a few tackle manufactures whom have looked into this in more detail ( Fox i think but cant be 100% sure). They had a underwater diver and checked the locations of the lead casting to a line clip and came up with the conclusion the swing back is so minimal it's not worth worrying abaout.....
In reply to Post #10
I've watched the fox one and it is a good eye opener yes m8
I've watched the fox one and it is a good eye opener yes m8
In reply to Post #8
The top of your rod isn't the fulcrum point it swings from. It's where the line meets the water.
The top of your rod isn't the fulcrum point it swings from. It's where the line meets the water.
In reply to Post #12
Can't let that one go. This is simply not true.
You will only get drop back if the lead lands on a tight line from the rod tip to the lead. If your lead lands on a slack line there is no drop back.
Unless you are fishing at close range in very deep water any drop back is lost in the variables affecting your casting and your bait as it falls through the water. Don't worry about it.
Can't let that one go. This is simply not true.
You will only get drop back if the lead lands on a tight line from the rod tip to the lead. If your lead lands on a slack line there is no drop back.
Unless you are fishing at close range in very deep water any drop back is lost in the variables affecting your casting and your bait as it falls through the water. Don't worry about it.
In reply to Post #13
So your basically saying to clip rods up at the same amount of wraps as my spot and marker rods ? As it doesn't really make much difference
So your basically saying to clip rods up at the same amount of wraps as my spot and marker rods ? As it doesn't really make much difference
In reply to Post #13
I think the accuracy lost through numerous variables is all the more reason to consider this stuff.
I've always gone with the 1/3 rule and it's done me ok over the years.
I think the accuracy lost through numerous variables is all the more reason to consider this stuff.
I've always gone with the 1/3 rule and it's done me ok over the years.