I am looking to start using a shock leader in my spod rod and hoping for a bit of advice on length to use. I have some decent higher strength braid to use but no idea of the length to put on the spool. Never needed one before, spombing to 100 yards has been fine with only one crack off ever, and that was human error with a line clip. Just bought a Deeper I am going to use on it hence looking for that extra bit of security with a leader rather than using the braid all the way through as I have traditionally done. Advice appreciated
In reply to Post #1
Put enough so that when your spomb is where you'd have it to cast ,that you have a good 3 or 4 turns on the reel. You don't need any more than that
Put enough so that when your spomb is where you'd have it to cast ,that you have a good 3 or 4 turns on the reel. You don't need any more than that
In reply to Post #1
I have the apps by the spigot on the rod and there will be 6/8 turns on the reel of the shockleader material.
Brent
I have the apps by the spigot on the rod and there will be 6/8 turns on the reel of the shockleader material.
Brent
In reply to Post #1
give these a go, saves hassle. just make sure the 40lb is at the spod end lol
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give these a go, saves hassle. just make sure the 40lb is at the spod end lol
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In reply to Post #1
Thanks all
Thanks all
In reply to Post #5
All depends on how good a knot you've tied between the braid and the leader. If you are happy with a decent FG knot that will fly through the rings easily enough then have a few wind on turns however for regular casting have the knot outside of the top eye.
All depends on how good a knot you've tied between the braid and the leader. If you are happy with a decent FG knot that will fly through the rings easily enough then have a few wind on turns however for regular casting have the knot outside of the top eye.
In reply to Post #6
with them korda leaders I just use a an albright knot to my braid
with them korda leaders I just use a an albright knot to my braid
In reply to Post #6
Just re-reading your post, wouldn't a braid shock leader be pointless ?
Surely the whole purpose is to add that little bit pf elasticity and extra abrasion resistance that mono offers ?
Just re-reading your post, wouldn't a braid shock leader be pointless ?
Surely the whole purpose is to add that little bit pf elasticity and extra abrasion resistance that mono offers ?
In reply to Post #6
Outside of the top eye? As in not on the spool at all? That is totally the wrong thing for a shock leader.and it's for his spod rod so abrasion resistance isn't an issue
Outside of the top eye? As in not on the spool at all? That is totally the wrong thing for a shock leader.and it's for his spod rod so abrasion resistance isn't an issue
In reply to Post #6
Looking at your picture it may be that you are big game fisherman where a heavy mono rubbing leader is needed for trolling. A casting shockleader is totally different. It is designed to be used to protect a lighter mainline from the shock of the sudden loading on the line during a powerful cast. As such it must run from the lead to the reel and be firmly held on the spool by several turns around the spool. 4 will usually do it but I prefer 6. So 25/30 ft is the length you need. The way you describe would reduce the breaking strain of the system to that of the light mainline, rendering the leader useless. That's a bit of very dangerous and incorrect advice. Sorry, no offence intended.
Looking at your picture it may be that you are big game fisherman where a heavy mono rubbing leader is needed for trolling. A casting shockleader is totally different. It is designed to be used to protect a lighter mainline from the shock of the sudden loading on the line during a powerful cast. As such it must run from the lead to the reel and be firmly held on the spool by several turns around the spool. 4 will usually do it but I prefer 6. So 25/30 ft is the length you need. The way you describe would reduce the breaking strain of the system to that of the light mainline, rendering the leader useless. That's a bit of very dangerous and incorrect advice. Sorry, no offence intended.
In reply to Post #1
as ip said 4 is optimal for long cast but 1 or two more not gonna make much difference.
as ip said 4 is optimal for long cast but 1 or two more not gonna make much difference.
In reply to Post #1
On my spomb rod I find as little turns as possible best
Half a turn max for me, I'd even have the knot just below your finger.
For fishing thats different because your planning on playing the fish close in and don't want you knot taking the pressure
Keep em short as possible
On my spomb rod I find as little turns as possible best
Half a turn max for me, I'd even have the knot just below your finger.
For fishing thats different because your planning on playing the fish close in and don't want you knot taking the pressure
Keep em short as possible
In reply to Post #10
No offence taken at all, I am more than aware of the difference between shock leaders and trolling / wind on leaders. I also use them when casting heavy lures with braid. In the latter instance I use shock leaders shorter than the ‘drop' when casting.
I certainly wouldn't class the advice as incorrect or ‘dangerous' though. If the shock leader is wound onto the reel then it has no cushioning effect whatsoever on the cast.
No offence taken at all, I am more than aware of the difference between shock leaders and trolling / wind on leaders. I also use them when casting heavy lures with braid. In the latter instance I use shock leaders shorter than the ‘drop' when casting.
I certainly wouldn't class the advice as incorrect or ‘dangerous' though. If the shock leader is wound onto the reel then it has no cushioning effect whatsoever on the cast.
In reply to Post #12
Sorry, thats just bad advice
Sorry, thats just bad advice
In reply to Post #13
If it's not on the reel prior to the cast it can't be classed as a shockleader it would then be a snag or rubbing leader . The whole point of a shockleader is to take the stress during the cast allowing you to use a lighter breaking strain mainline to obtain greater distances with heavier leads Spods etc without the risk of cracking off 🤷♂️
If it's not on the reel prior to the cast it can't be classed as a shockleader it would then be a snag or rubbing leader . The whole point of a shockleader is to take the stress during the cast allowing you to use a lighter breaking strain mainline to obtain greater distances with heavier leads Spods etc without the risk of cracking off 🤷♂️