Monday morning rant, please skip if you want to 
Well the saying goes 'A fool and his money are easily parted' I think it should be changed to 'A carp fisherman and his money are easily parted'. If it's not tackle companies adding huge percentage of carp tax to identical products you can buy in other markets for a lot less what is with all the 'tackle giveaway' sites that are popping up?
This weekend alone facebook has kindly introduced me to four new places I can gamble away hard earned cash rather than just save it up and spending it myself. Sites like UK carp Tech (formed feb 2020), Carp gear giveaways (formed jan 2020), Carp gear ltd (formed Jul 2020) and now Fisholux (formed May 2020). I am sure there are others.
Looking at Facebook some people genuinely believe these businesses are giving away tackle out of the goodness of there hearts, to quote 'in these difficult times its so good to see you helping others'
I corrected one person along the lines of 'company XXXXX are a business, they sell tickets at 2 or 3 times the RRP of the product which they then no doubt pay trade prices for...they then make a profit'...I got banned from that facebook page 
Am I the only person that would rather save my money and then buy what I can afford when I can afford it?
Well the saying goes 'A fool and his money are easily parted' I think it should be changed to 'A carp fisherman and his money are easily parted'. If it's not tackle companies adding huge percentage of carp tax to identical products you can buy in other markets for a lot less what is with all the 'tackle giveaway' sites that are popping up?
This weekend alone facebook has kindly introduced me to four new places I can gamble away hard earned cash rather than just save it up and spending it myself. Sites like UK carp Tech (formed feb 2020), Carp gear giveaways (formed jan 2020), Carp gear ltd (formed Jul 2020) and now Fisholux (formed May 2020). I am sure there are others.
Looking at Facebook some people genuinely believe these businesses are giving away tackle out of the goodness of there hearts, to quote 'in these difficult times its so good to see you helping others'
I corrected one person along the lines of 'company XXXXX are a business, they sell tickets at 2 or 3 times the RRP of the product which they then no doubt pay trade prices for...they then make a profit'...I got banned from that facebook page Am I the only person that would rather save my money and then buy what I can afford when I can afford it?
Agree mate, I have zero interest in the business model of these companies. I too was bombarded by Fisholux and have blocked them on every platform.
Part of me says that if Anglers are gullible enough to get involved then that is up to them but the other half thinks it is nothing short of gambling and should be considered so and governed by the Gambling Commission......I bet none of them are!
Part of me says that if Anglers are gullible enough to get involved then that is up to them but the other half thinks it is nothing short of gambling and should be considered so and governed by the Gambling Commission......I bet none of them are!
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Not just carp tattle though, cars, motorcycles, and what's with all the lotteries even charities are starting there own to raise funds. The only one I would like to see do any of the above to fund themselves is the BBC.
Not just carp tattle though, cars, motorcycles, and what's with all the lotteries even charities are starting there own to raise funds. The only one I would like to see do any of the above to fund themselves is the BBC.
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There's so many of the businesses about one called BOTB doing raffles for cars and watches etc.
So many popping up as people are seeing how lucrative these companies are, on some of them they will not even run the raffle until they have enough tickets sold which could be never!
Bit of a scam but if people are falling for it then more fool them
There's so many of the businesses about one called BOTB doing raffles for cars and watches etc.
So many popping up as people are seeing how lucrative these companies are, on some of them they will not even run the raffle until they have enough tickets sold which could be never!
Bit of a scam but if people are falling for it then more fool them
And before anyone says 'No one is being forced to play' try saying that to a gambling addict 
(my god father was, he died on his own and pennyless)
This is not a little raffle at the local working mens club or a charity once or twice a year, it a business model.
I like businesses that make stuff, build things, educate people, add to society. These take money for nothing
(my god father was, he died on his own and pennyless)This is not a little raffle at the local working mens club or a charity once or twice a year, it a business model.
I like businesses that make stuff, build things, educate people, add to society. These take money for nothing
In reply to Post #5
Probably based offshore to avoid tax.
Probably based offshore to avoid tax.
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they ones I looked at are registered UK companies
they ones I looked at are registered UK companies
I never like to see companies fail but I really hope this Fisholux fall on their arse with this.
Take the Delkim "competition" for example, (it isn't a competition, it is a draw) 300 tickets at £3.79 per ticket means that if all sold they will bring in £1,137 for a set of alarms and accessories which retail for circa £600. Bear in mind they will have been obtained at cost price as well and the profit margin is even bigger.
Hopefully most will see through this and wont be taken for mugs...
Take the Delkim "competition" for example, (it isn't a competition, it is a draw) 300 tickets at £3.79 per ticket means that if all sold they will bring in £1,137 for a set of alarms and accessories which retail for circa £600. Bear in mind they will have been obtained at cost price as well and the profit margin is even bigger.
Hopefully most will see through this and wont be taken for mugs...
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yes they will make money but someone will get alarms for 3.79! It is not like if people wouldn't know that it is a lotery kind a gamble... and it is 1:300 chance, not that bad it is only 4 korda swivels worth
yes they will make money but someone will get alarms for 3.79! It is not like if people wouldn't know that it is a lotery kind a gamble... and it is 1:300 chance, not that bad
it is only 4 korda swivels worth
In reply to Post #9
Reduce the odds, buy 100 tickets, still didn't win, oh well better luck next time.
Reduce the odds, buy 100 tickets, still didn't win, oh well better luck next time.
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I saw that one 😂 I generally don't mind these types of things and people earning money, but some of the profits are just outrageous. Then when you mention it you get the old “we have to pay for advertising” etc
I play the bonus ball type ones now and then but am under no illusion that it's a dead cert. but the profit made on the items isn't ridiculous so don't mind playing it. Wouldn't catch me playing the fisholux or whatever one though
Like I said I generally like them as it gives people a chance to win some good items (be that house, car, cash, tackle) for not a lot of money. Bit like doing the lottery, you know you probably ain't gonna win but if you do happy days
I saw that one 😂 I generally don't mind these types of things and people earning money, but some of the profits are just outrageous. Then when you mention it you get the old “we have to pay for advertising” etc
I play the bonus ball type ones now and then but am under no illusion that it's a dead cert. but the profit made on the items isn't ridiculous so don't mind playing it. Wouldn't catch me playing the fisholux or whatever one though
Like I said I generally like them as it gives people a chance to win some good items (be that house, car, cash, tackle) for not a lot of money. Bit like doing the lottery, you know you probably ain't gonna win but if you do happy days
I'm sure that Jag won't mind me posting this. A few months ago they received a phone call from a guy who was just calling to give them his address. He'd won a complete jag pod kit in a Facebook raffle and apparently it was being dispatched directly to him by the manufacturers. Jag knew absolutely nothing about it. We're not involved in anyway and I can confidently say wouldn't be supplying any stock at trade prices to these kinds of outfits. Queue one very disappointed and pissed off caller.
Please be very careful paying money for tickets in these raffles. I strongly suspect that a lot of them are run by scammers and I doubt very much whether any reputable manufacturers or shops would have anything to do with them. Most manufacturers will have charities that they are already associated with and donate tackle to. In the case of Jag that's Lucy's Bowl. Fox used to donate money from life jacket sales after the Savay tragedy etc. Probably not to Dave's Amazing Never to be Repeated Facebook Tackle Raffle.
Please be very careful paying money for tickets in these raffles. I strongly suspect that a lot of them are run by scammers and I doubt very much whether any reputable manufacturers or shops would have anything to do with them. Most manufacturers will have charities that they are already associated with and donate tackle to. In the case of Jag that's Lucy's Bowl. Fox used to donate money from life jacket sales after the Savay tragedy etc. Probably not to Dave's Amazing Never to be Repeated Facebook Tackle Raffle.
I got a bit caught up in this when one site first started at the beginning of the year. Won £400 of Korda end tackle, Korda Distance sticks and in March i won a Trakker Tempest Advanced 150. I totalled up how much i'd spent on "tickets". It was about £150.
To be honest, i didn't really need any more end tackle, i already had distance sticks, and the Trakker has just joined the many other bivvys in my garage on the off chance i may go to France sometime in the future.
I would like to think myself fairly level headed, but it would have been all too easy to become an expensive habit. Haven't bought any tickets on these sites since. I have been tempted a couple of times, but have now left these FB groups..
To be honest, i didn't really need any more end tackle, i already had distance sticks, and the Trakker has just joined the many other bivvys in my garage on the off chance i may go to France sometime in the future.
I would like to think myself fairly level headed, but it would have been all too easy to become an expensive habit. Haven't bought any tickets on these sites since. I have been tempted a couple of times, but have now left these FB groups..
In reply to Post #10
Looks like they've limited tickets per person on their site
Looks like they've limited tickets per person on their site
In reply to Post #1
I questioned one raffling a land rover ,They said they had paid £30k for it. Mine must have doubled im price overnight.
I questioned one raffling a land rover ,They said they had paid £30k for it. Mine must have doubled im price overnight.