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Do leaders like shock leader shy fish away (20 posts / 1,924 views)
Pclarke
Posts: 14
Post #1 10 Sep 2020 21:38
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Been fishing a new water what requires distance casting in some pegs so I need a shock leader and its a bit different from having tight lines with fluorocarbon with leaders like whiplash I guess they stick out massively in clear water? Also I hear whiplash floats
TeeCee
Posts: 2,009
Post #2 11 Sep 2020 09:22
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My own theory on lines that stick out is that it's a good thing in certain circumstances as fish can avoid the line and just go about their business, whereas if you've got a near invisible line that they bump into, they're more likely to spook.

I do think that this theory is dependent on how pressured the water is i.e tight highly visible lines on a pressured water they're likely to avoid your spot.

I don't know if anglers are still doing it, sometime ago there was a phase where anglers were fishing with bright coloured fluro lines and where still catching.

I've fished slack and tight lines and have never noticed much difference. I do like tight lines for the indication, you know, fish bumping into your lines where they're on your spot feeding. At the moment, the spot that I've been working for some time now, I fish with ultra tight lines due to the heavy weed and I'm still catching consistently.

I don't know if any of my ramblings are of any use to you?
phil090781
Posts: 2,335
Post #3 11 Sep 2020 09:46
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In reply to Post #1
As anglers we give fish too much credit. I wouldn't worry about it at all.
Pclarke
Posts: 14
Post #4 11 Sep 2020 10:49
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In reply to Post #2
What line and leader do you use
TeeCee
Posts: 2,009
Post #5 11 Sep 2020 14:50
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In reply to Post #4
It all depends really. I'm using 20lb touchdown straight through due to heavy weed which I was pumping out a 3oz lead to over 100yds which surprised me. If there's very little to no weed I'll use 15lb Syncro XT straight through without a leader which should be able to pump a 4oz lead to 140yds, any further then I'll put on a cut down on the slim and thick end a touchdown leader giving it the beans.

I won't fish with braid as a leader as great as it is or braided mainline down to me thinking that it's a possible death trap waiting to happen should anything part with a fish on. I've said it before on here, get a fistful of braid and throw it in the edge, it's like a bird's nest and looks deadly the me, maybe others will have a different opinion.
yonny yonny
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Post #6 11 Sep 2020 17:19
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In reply to Post #1
People catch carp using shock leaders every day mate. Don't worry about it.
Pclarke
Posts: 14
Post #7 11 Sep 2020 18:22
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In reply to Post #6
I mite get some 18lb fox exocet with no shock leader
carpe_diem carpe_diem
Posts: 1,982
Post #8 11 Sep 2020 20:44
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In reply to Post #1
Have a look at the tapered mainlines available , the Fox one is very good
TeeCee
Posts: 2,009
Post #9 11 Sep 2020 20:56
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In reply to Post #8
Not from what other anglers on my syndicate say. Also the line parts well below it's stated breaking strain. Just take a look at the tackle box tests and see for yourself.

I'd go with gardner syncro non loaded or gold label lines as they break above the stated breaking strain and don't chaff up as much as the fox lines.
AideyKaye
Posts: 1,010
Post #10 11 Sep 2020 20:59
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Makes me laugh all this camouflage stuff. We spend a fortune on matching the lake bed, only to stick an 15mm "pineapple" pop up 2inches on a gravel spot.........and still catch

What in their environment is yellow? What is their environment is perfectly round? What in their environment poorly imitates a tropical fruit?
Pclarke
Posts: 14
Post #11 11 Sep 2020 21:03
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In reply to Post #9
Do you mean gold label pro distance
TeeCee
Posts: 2,009
Post #12 11 Sep 2020 22:32
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Any of them really. Take your pick. A mate of mine raves about pro gold. I like the Pro distance and pro tough. The guy at Birmingham angling says pro distance has got the better breaking strain out of the range. I can't say how true that is as I've not tested them all side by side.

All of this is very personal as we all have our own preferences and different needs. From what I've noticed, I don't think you can go far wrong with any of the gold label brand with their different uses for certain situations.
Pclarke
Posts: 14
Post #13 12 Sep 2020 06:42
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In reply to Post #12
Thanks mate
scaley&dark
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Post #14 12 Sep 2020 07:21
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In reply to Post #1
How far are some of the long range casting you may need to do ?
That will influence what line / straight through / shock leader you may choose.

Pclarke
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Post #15 12 Sep 2020 08:50
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In reply to Post #14
From 100 yards to 170
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