Is there a spray that you can use to spray your tackle with that kills weils disease? Or after how long will the disease effectively die when out of the rats body?
But it isnt just tackle that you can get it from. Wonder how many people return a fish into the water, dry their hands and then eat something later without cleaning their hands. I know I don't and could pay for it one day I guess
In reply to Post #42
Dry gear shouldn't be a problem, if you are worried about wet lines on reels and so forth a spray of vinegar would do the job. Important kit is dried off as soon as possible.
A disinfecting hand gel is the other best option.
Below is further tips from decease control web site stuff
Disinfecting your kit and non-porous materials is extremely simple, as the leptospira bacterium (Weils) is very sensitive to disinfectants, soaps and many other household chemicals even at low concentrations. Despite the bacteria being extremely dangerous during an infection, they are one of the easiest to control.
Any non-porous surface that has dried for more than a minute or two will be safe, and will remain so even if it becomes wet again - the bacteria are instantly killed by drying.
Normal concentrations of detergent, disinfectant and soap can be used to clean your tackle; there is no need to use specialist chemicals or higher concentrations, no need to use hot water or to soak items for a long time. - for infection control you only needcare about killing them.
Any commercial brands of cleaning products, but any product with a proven antibacterial action (disinfectants, bleaches, alcohol-based solutions, etc.) will be effective against leptospires even if they are not mentioned on a label.
Where cleaning chemicals are not available, some benefit has been found in the fact leptospires are very intolerant of acid - a solution of acetic acid (vinegar) or citric acid (lemon juice) will work as a disinfectant, for example to wash hands on a fishing trip.
Dry gear shouldn't be a problem, if you are worried about wet lines on reels and so forth a spray of vinegar would do the job. Important kit is dried off as soon as possible.
A disinfecting hand gel is the other best option.
Below is further tips from decease control web site stuff
Disinfecting your kit and non-porous materials is extremely simple, as the leptospira bacterium (Weils) is very sensitive to disinfectants, soaps and many other household chemicals even at low concentrations. Despite the bacteria being extremely dangerous during an infection, they are one of the easiest to control.
Any non-porous surface that has dried for more than a minute or two will be safe, and will remain so even if it becomes wet again - the bacteria are instantly killed by drying.
Normal concentrations of detergent, disinfectant and soap can be used to clean your tackle; there is no need to use specialist chemicals or higher concentrations, no need to use hot water or to soak items for a long time. - for infection control you only needcare about killing them.
Any commercial brands of cleaning products, but any product with a proven antibacterial action (disinfectants, bleaches, alcohol-based solutions, etc.) will be effective against leptospires even if they are not mentioned on a label.
Where cleaning chemicals are not available, some benefit has been found in the fact leptospires are very intolerant of acid - a solution of acetic acid (vinegar) or citric acid (lemon juice) will work as a disinfectant, for example to wash hands on a fishing trip.
In reply to Post #1
Really interesting reading,
I am just starting carping again and will be starting some night sessions soon. I have taken some good tips here guys. Anything thing else I can do to help prvent this?
Thanks
Dave
Really interesting reading,
I am just starting carping again and will be starting some night sessions soon. I have taken some good tips here guys. Anything thing else I can do to help prvent this?
Thanks
Dave
In reply to Post #1000
had a jab a few years ago for this weils disease but how long does it last b4 i need to have it again ..??
oh and by the way it can also be picked up from cattle and pigs aswell chaps
had a jab a few years ago for this weils disease but how long does it last b4 i need to have it again ..??
oh and by the way it can also be picked up from cattle and pigs aswell chaps
In reply to Post #46
had a jab a few years ago for this weils disease but how long does it last b4 i need to have it again ..??
Without wishing to worry you, Dean, I can assure you that you did not have an inoculation against Weils Disease...There IS NO effective preventative measure currently available, though they are researching like mad to try and find one. No matter what anyone says (and this includes some doctors) you cannot at present receive a jab that will protect against Weils. IT DOES NOT EXIST!
It is thought that a recent anti-tetanus jab may help in slowing down the progress of Weils but it is NOT a prevention in itself.
Lepto Information Centre advice
preventative medication
had a jab a few years ago for this weils disease but how long does it last b4 i need to have it again ..??
Without wishing to worry you, Dean, I can assure you that you did not have an inoculation against Weils Disease...There IS NO effective preventative measure currently available, though they are researching like mad to try and find one. No matter what anyone says (and this includes some doctors) you cannot at present receive a jab that will protect against Weils. IT DOES NOT EXIST!
It is thought that a recent anti-tetanus jab may help in slowing down the progress of Weils but it is NOT a prevention in itself.
Lepto Information Centre advice
preventative medication
In reply to Post #47
i hear what your saying Ken, dont think it was exactly for weils, but minimises how bad you might get it, might have been some kind of tetnus, work underground in tunnels where drainage would cause a problem with rat urine and alike, never had a symptom yet and hope i never do. glad you recovered from yours, some great tips and talks from the mighty Ken would very much be missed, tight lines chaps....
i hear what your saying Ken, dont think it was exactly for weils, but minimises how bad you might get it, might have been some kind of tetnus, work underground in tunnels where drainage would cause a problem with rat urine and alike, never had a symptom yet and hope i never do. glad you recovered from yours, some great tips and talks from the mighty Ken would very much be missed, tight lines chaps....
In reply to Post #48
Friends I know generaly working with sewage and associated risks are advised to have hepatitus a,b, & c type innoculations as well as a regular tetanus. Again as stated no protection to Weils, still might be an idea to check with your GP as not sure how often persons in high risk catagories should re-vacinate. Tetanus was generally 10 years.
Friends I know generaly working with sewage and associated risks are advised to have hepatitus a,b, & c type innoculations as well as a regular tetanus. Again as stated no protection to Weils, still might be an idea to check with your GP as not sure how often persons in high risk catagories should re-vacinate. Tetanus was generally 10 years.
In reply to Post #17
Been reading through this over the past few days, i beleive the younger generation like myself needs to be more aware off this, i've seen people my age wash their pans in the lake, then prepare food on it after!
Been reading through this over the past few days, i beleive the younger generation like myself needs to be more aware off this, i've seen people my age wash their pans in the lake, then prepare food on it after!
In reply to Post #48
Hi Dean,
I'd make sure that your tetanus is up to date...Same goes to everyone reading this...
Hi Dean,
I'd make sure that your tetanus is up to date...Same goes to everyone reading this...
In reply to Post #1000
After reading this thread I will be sticking an anti-bacterial hand wash in my tackle box for sure! Ive been meaning to do it anyway if not just for removing the taste of bloodworm boiles from my hands before i tuck into my food!
Trying to be the devils advocate here a bit I would say that where ever we are we are surrounded by rats...just because you cant see them doesnt mean they are not there...it wasn't until we got a cat recently that i knew how many were around our garden (normal house in brum suberbs)...massive things as well! I think you tend to notice them more when fishing as you are generally sat still and silent as it gets dark. If you sit still and silently almost anywhere at night outside you will see a rat before too long.
The point im making is there is the potential for Wiels to be spread virtually anywhere...say a kids toy left outside on a hot summers night gets rat's pee on, kid picks it up next morning and then sticks their hand in their mouth...
I agree take sensible precautions where ever you can (as i said i will be leaving handwash in my kitbag from now on) but try not to panic when you see a rat as they are part and parcel of our daily lives. I would also say my point goes both ways..not only should you not sit there panicking while fishing that you might die any second (obviously take sensible precautions) but also you should be more aware of rats living, feeding, peeing around, and quite possibly IN your house and garden.
Doing an overnighter last August i was barely able to get to sleep...i could hear undreds of rats and they seemed to be fighting non stop (horrible loud screaching sounds) and you could here them swimming back and forth from "rat" island! My fishing buddy thought i was a little OTT cause i wouldnt stop talking about them...looking at my bivvy in the head torch from his swim all you could see was hundreds of pairs of shiny eyes, it was pretty immense lol. Next morning we looked for our bait and could see it either floating off in the water (couple whole loves of bread for surface fishing) or it was simply gone! My mate had a tin of luncheon meat which he was gonna chuck so he stuck it on the ground between his 2 feet, with the intention of splatting any attacking rats...was gone within a couple of minutes and we didnt even see the culprit!
After reading this thread I will be sticking an anti-bacterial hand wash in my tackle box for sure! Ive been meaning to do it anyway if not just for removing the taste of bloodworm boiles from my hands before i tuck into my food!
Trying to be the devils advocate here a bit I would say that where ever we are we are surrounded by rats...just because you cant see them doesnt mean they are not there...it wasn't until we got a cat recently that i knew how many were around our garden (normal house in brum suberbs)...massive things as well! I think you tend to notice them more when fishing as you are generally sat still and silent as it gets dark. If you sit still and silently almost anywhere at night outside you will see a rat before too long.
The point im making is there is the potential for Wiels to be spread virtually anywhere...say a kids toy left outside on a hot summers night gets rat's pee on, kid picks it up next morning and then sticks their hand in their mouth...
I agree take sensible precautions where ever you can (as i said i will be leaving handwash in my kitbag from now on) but try not to panic when you see a rat as they are part and parcel of our daily lives. I would also say my point goes both ways..not only should you not sit there panicking while fishing that you might die any second (obviously take sensible precautions) but also you should be more aware of rats living, feeding, peeing around, and quite possibly IN your house and garden.
Doing an overnighter last August i was barely able to get to sleep...i could hear undreds of rats and they seemed to be fighting non stop (horrible loud screaching sounds) and you could here them swimming back and forth from "rat" island! My fishing buddy thought i was a little OTT cause i wouldnt stop talking about them...looking at my bivvy in the head torch from his swim all you could see was hundreds of pairs of shiny eyes, it was pretty immense lol. Next morning we looked for our bait and could see it either floating off in the water (couple whole loves of bread for surface fishing) or it was simply gone! My mate had a tin of luncheon meat which he was gonna chuck so he stuck it on the ground between his 2 feet, with the intention of splatting any attacking rats...was gone within a couple of minutes and we didnt even see the culprit!
In reply to Post #24
>>Please note not all antibacterial wipes are proof against Weil's disease
I work in our rivers as part of my job and we have always been issued with alcohol smelling 'antibacterial' wipes.
These were withdrawn recently, the reason given was that they were not proof against Weil's disease.
We now have Gorilla Wipes which are effective against Weil's disease. They also stink terribly so I suspect that they contain something stronger than the normal antibacterial ones.
>>Please note not all antibacterial wipes are proof against Weil's disease
I work in our rivers as part of my job and we have always been issued with alcohol smelling 'antibacterial' wipes.
These were withdrawn recently, the reason given was that they were not proof against Weil's disease.
We now have Gorilla Wipes which are effective against Weil's disease. They also stink terribly so I suspect that they contain something stronger than the normal antibacterial ones.
In reply to Post #53
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In reply to Post #10
is it legal to have an airweapon in a public place then?
is it legal to have an airweapon in a public place then?
In reply to Post #1000
i hate rats
i hate rats