I'm in 2 minds of this one. I have a set of 2 10ft 3.5lb scopes and a spod. I love them and they are good for everywhere I fish except 1 lake where I struggle to cast far enough.
Now some of this will be a technique issue I'm sure.
Basically I don't really have the money or space to have 2 dedicated carp setups so would I be better of selling or if I can find someone swapping them for a 12ft setup to get that extra distance I need on the one lake.
I have been mulling this over for weeks and can't make my mind up!
Cheers
Jack
Now some of this will be a technique issue I'm sure.
Basically I don't really have the money or space to have 2 dedicated carp setups so would I be better of selling or if I can find someone swapping them for a 12ft setup to get that extra distance I need on the one lake.
I have been mulling this over for weeks and can't make my mind up!
Cheers
Jack
In reply to Post #1
Have to ask yourself, what benefit do the 10ft rods have over 12ft that is more worthwhile than being able to cast further?
Have to ask yourself, what benefit do the 10ft rods have over 12ft that is more worthwhile than being able to cast further?
In reply to Post #1
Take a look there is an interesting thread on here regarding 10ft and 12ft rods page 2 are 12ft rods redundant
Take a look there is an interesting thread on here regarding 10ft and 12ft rods page 2 are 12ft rods redundant
12ft over 10ft every time for me.
In reply to Post #2
i think i prefer having the shorter rods more than a longer one, always have done.
just keep asking myself am i missing out on stuff not being able to get that distance.
maybe i should go do alot of casting, see where my maximum is and then see if i want to part with any money?
spend alot ofmy fishing on places where everything is an underarm chuck so casting hasnt b een a factor before.
i think i prefer having the shorter rods more than a longer one, always have done.
just keep asking myself am i missing out on stuff not being able to get that distance.
maybe i should go do alot of casting, see where my maximum is and then see if i want to part with any money?
spend alot ofmy fishing on places where everything is an underarm chuck so casting hasnt b een a factor before.
In reply to Post #5
I think you have answered your own question
I think you have answered your own question
In reply to Post #6
i probably have to be fair, just needed to atually sound it out lol
i probably have to be fair, just needed to atually sound it out lol
Back around October time I purchased a set of Gardner Covert 12ft rods, i was using Sonik Xtractors before them.
Yes i got extra distance but the consistency and accuracy of the rod is what really surprised me.
Now the quality of the blank on the Coverts is much better than the xtractors, expected as they cost 3 times as much but the point im making is maybe upgrading your 10ft'ers to another a pair of 10s but with a better blank MIGHT be your answer? Upping the T/C maybe?
If your 10ft'ers are good everywhere else, a set of 12's will work so long as you have the space to comfortably use them, big swims, over head trees cut back etc etc...
Yes i got extra distance but the consistency and accuracy of the rod is what really surprised me.
Now the quality of the blank on the Coverts is much better than the xtractors, expected as they cost 3 times as much but the point im making is maybe upgrading your 10ft'ers to another a pair of 10s but with a better blank MIGHT be your answer? Upping the T/C maybe?
If your 10ft'ers are good everywhere else, a set of 12's will work so long as you have the space to comfortably use them, big swims, over head trees cut back etc etc...
In reply to Post #1
You could get 1 12ft rod even maybe 2nd hand to start with and see how you get on, compare the extra distance and feel then if it seems better buy another to match.
You could get 1 12ft rod even maybe 2nd hand to start with and see how you get on, compare the extra distance and feel then if it seems better buy another to match.
In reply to Post #8
I would t want to up the test curve. I'm at 3.5 already. Didn't actually want them but when I was buying some scopes they came up local on a deal too good to turn down. If anything I would have gone alot softer if buying new.
I may keep an eye out for something local second hand in 12 ft and see if I can pick up a cheap deal.
Someone the other day was doing 3 sonik rods for like 80 quid, but I wasn't quick enough on that one.
That way I don't mind if don't get used and could probably get money back if really didn't like them.
I would t want to up the test curve. I'm at 3.5 already. Didn't actually want them but when I was buying some scopes they came up local on a deal too good to turn down. If anything I would have gone alot softer if buying new.
I may keep an eye out for something local second hand in 12 ft and see if I can pick up a cheap deal.
Someone the other day was doing 3 sonik rods for like 80 quid, but I wasn't quick enough on that one.
That way I don't mind if don't get used and could probably get money back if really didn't like them.
In reply to Post #1
A 12 foot rod can do everything a 10 foot can, plus you can cast further. 12s are far more versatile
A 12 foot rod can do everything a 10 foot can, plus you can cast further. 12s are far more versatile
In reply to Post #8
Not surprised cause them xtractors are like cut-down beachcasters, terrible blank. He's got scopes already which are a decent enough blank and I think the chaps solution is 12ft rods.
Of which most of us have realized it was silly to go away from them and have returned to them.
Not surprised cause them xtractors are like cut-down beachcasters, terrible blank. He's got scopes already which are a decent enough blank and I think the chaps solution is 12ft rods.
Of which most of us have realized it was silly to go away from them and have returned to them.
In reply to Post #11
Yeah. I think the pan is getting in my head that I'm going to keep the 10s for now and wait for a deal to pop up locally on some 12s and try them out. I mean ideally I'd have both sets for different situations so if I can get a deal then that could happen.
I mean I spend ages worrying about this stuff but I should probably try and get out fishing instead lol.
The joys of young kids and work. Bank time is very limited.
Cheers for all the input guys!
Yeah. I think the pan is getting in my head that I'm going to keep the 10s for now and wait for a deal to pop up locally on some 12s and try them out. I mean ideally I'd have both sets for different situations so if I can get a deal then that could happen.
I mean I spend ages worrying about this stuff but I should probably try and get out fishing instead lol.
The joys of young kids and work. Bank time is very limited.
Cheers for all the input guys!
In reply to Post #11
Been using 10fts for a few years before that 12s used my 12fts other day so I agree there more versatile and casting with little effort 10s ok in puddles
Been using 10fts for a few years before that 12s used my 12fts other day so I agree there more versatile and casting with little effort 10s ok in puddles
The day will come when rod manufacturers realise they are missing a trick, make a rod that has one butt section 6' or 5' long with two tip sections, one 4' or 5' long and one 6' or 7' long. Then the user can choose what length they want to use.
It has been done before. I used have a split cane rod that had 3 tip sections that were slightly different lengths and thickness, and I used have an Avon rod with 2 different test curve tip sections. In fact, I think John Wilson had a rod on the market that you could use in various combinations with the supplied tip sections.
It will happen, and then everyone will jump on the band wagon making them.
It has been done before. I used have a split cane rod that had 3 tip sections that were slightly different lengths and thickness, and I used have an Avon rod with 2 different test curve tip sections. In fact, I think John Wilson had a rod on the market that you could use in various combinations with the supplied tip sections.
It will happen, and then everyone will jump on the band wagon making them.
In reply to Post #7
If you want complete flexibility for the future, and only 1 set of rods, the only option is 12 or 13' casting distance wise, even lessons wont change that. They can do everything a 10' can, the 10' can't do what they do distance wise.
It really is that simple 👍
If you want complete flexibility for the future, and only 1 set of rods, the only option is 12 or 13' casting distance wise, even lessons wont change that. They can do everything a 10' can, the 10' can't do what they do distance wise.
It really is that simple 👍
In reply to Post #16
That's only a matter if it's casting only lake
For many it might be as swearing in church but my baitboat goes everywhere I go...
That's only a matter if it's casting only lake
For many it might be as swearing in church but my baitboat goes everywhere I go...
In reply to Post #17
Most are casting only lakes in the UK. Most aren't big enough to need a boat
Most are casting only lakes in the UK. Most aren't big enough to need a boat
In reply to Post #17
I did say casting distance wise
Edit I'd rather use a bait boat myself too nowadays but on a lot of places you can't, hence total flexibility of 12-13.
I did say casting distance wise
Edit I'd rather use a bait boat myself too nowadays but on a lot of places you can't, hence total flexibility of 12-13.
In reply to Post #17
Trouble is there's more lakes that won't allow them I been thinking of a bait boat but none of my clubs allow them
Trouble is there's more lakes that won't allow them I been thinking of a bait boat but none of my clubs allow them
In reply to Post #20
At the end is a no brainer. 10ft rods can't offer the casting capabilities as a 12ft rod.
So, go for 12 ft
At the end is a no brainer. 10ft rods can't offer the casting capabilities as a 12ft rod.
So, go for 12 ft
just wrapping up my first year of using 10ft rods (3.5's) compared to 12's (3.25)
main differences I have found is that the 10's are a lot easier to land fish with, don't get caught up on foliage as often, are lighter & easier to get in & out the car.
12's do cast further, have better pickup at range & provide a bit more backbone in heavy weed but that's it.
overall I much prefer the 10's
main differences I have found is that the 10's are a lot easier to land fish with, don't get caught up on foliage as often, are lighter & easier to get in & out the car.
12's do cast further, have better pickup at range & provide a bit more backbone in heavy weed but that's it.
overall I much prefer the 10's
What are 10ft 3.5 t/c rods like to play carp on. Are they stiff as pokers?
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