Anyone ever had tigers blow on a lake?
Fishing a lake where tigers have been used forever and very recently 2 people have told me they've seen fish leave them in the margins but eat other bait around them.
Fishing a lake where tigers have been used forever and very recently 2 people have told me they've seen fish leave them in the margins but eat other bait around them.
In reply to Post #1
I've never heard of them blowing but there are definitely times when they will favour them over other food items, and also vice versa.
I've never heard of them blowing but there are definitely times when they will favour them over other food items, and also vice versa.
In reply to Post #1
It's entirely possible. Best thing is to try yourself though . The amount of times Iv had people tell me X Y Z doesn't work and Iv caught is ridiculous
It's entirely possible. Best thing is to try yourself though . The amount of times Iv had people tell me X Y Z doesn't work and Iv caught is ridiculous
In reply to Post #1
the over use/abuse of any un natural food source a fish will eventually avoid to some point
think about that before one replies
the over use/abuse of any un natural food source a fish will eventually avoid to some point
think about that before one replies
In reply to Post #1
As Frenzy has said, any bait will blow.
Some by overuse, some by lack of baiting, either long term prebaiting, or not enough bait around the hook, and occasionally by lack of nutrition.
That's particles, boilies, the works.
As Frenzy has said, any bait will blow.
Some by overuse, some by lack of baiting, either long term prebaiting, or not enough bait around the hook, and occasionally by lack of nutrition.
That's particles, boilies, the works.
Thanks guys. Back to boilie it is then.
In reply to Post #1
Never had a problem with tigers. But then I only use half an handful per rod
Never had a problem with tigers. But then I only use half an handful per rod
I do not buy into the story that baits blow.
Any bait that's being chucked in to much will at some point stop working an becomes a danger rather that a free food source. I been fishing a gin clear public water an after each bite when re dropping the rod by boat was noticing that all
The tigers on the spot had been cleaned up an only bollies were left on the spot.
Don't listen to what people say do an don't work go off your own results
The tigers on the spot had been cleaned up an only bollies were left on the spot.
Don't listen to what people say do an don't work go off your own results
I think it would do all carp fisherman a load of good to get the old match rods out and go float fishing for the day. Baits can "blow" within an hour or less, one minute you can't keep a grain of sweetcorn in the water, and then suddenly can't buy a bite on it. A switch to maggots and the action instantly starts again. This cycle goes on all day, sometimes changing by the minute. For some reason as carp anglers we think of best baits lasting for weeks or months, when the reality is, its just what works then and there.
In reply to Post #10
M1 and M2 on Suffolk Water Park could be like that. I used to start with sweetcorn in the margins on a centre pin and float, usually picking up a couple of fish, then it would go quiet, put a lump of meat on and bites would start again from exactly the same spot resulting in a few more before they would leave that, so a switch to pellets would bring them back on.
Those ledgering boilies might only get 2 or 3 fish a day, whereas those who switched could end up with 10 or more.
M1 and M2 on Suffolk Water Park could be like that. I used to start with sweetcorn in the margins on a centre pin and float, usually picking up a couple of fish, then it would go quiet, put a lump of meat on and bites would start again from exactly the same spot resulting in a few more before they would leave that, so a switch to pellets would bring them back on.
Those ledgering boilies might only get 2 or 3 fish a day, whereas those who switched could end up with 10 or more.
In reply to Post #9
Euro aqua feeds corn by the tonne weekly , so If corn was going to blow surely it would there.
But it has not.
Euro aqua feeds corn by the tonne weekly , so If corn was going to blow surely it would there.
But it has not.
In reply to Post #12
Is it corn, soaked maize, or cooked maize.
Is it corn, soaked maize, or cooked maize.
In reply to Post #12
That's because the environment is totally artificial. Massively overstocked. Eat or die.
That's because the environment is totally artificial. Massively overstocked. Eat or die.
In reply to Post #10
That's a great point
That's a great point
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In reply to Post #12
That's because the environment is totally artificial. Massively overstocked. Eat or die.
Well said.
Fish have a simple choice, as so nicely said above.
This blowing of baits mixes in with that, and the stock levels of a water.
An 'overstocked' water fish need food to survive, simple, so that will have to be anglers baits, whereas a richer water, with less stock per acre, more natural food and carp can pick and choose from the available food, be that naturals, or anglers baits.
Years ago, Fred Wilton came up with the idea that any shortfall in the diet could be fulfilled by a food item that contains everything that they need. It wasn't Tim Paisley using the idea to sell bait, it was before that, 1960's/1970's.
Other anglers followed suit, some disagreeing totally, some disagreeing on point of nutrition, I.e. milk protein was not the best source of protein. Rod Hutchinson believed fishmeal was better for one, amongst his Particle experiments.
To my mind, milk protein is not the best, it can be indigestible without the correct enzymes, amylase and trypsin, which needed to be included in the bait, but as any bait maker will tell you, getting enzymes to work correctly after boiling...
Too few anglers consider the water that they are fishing; quite probably most are overstocked, so it takes longer for baits to blow.
I've seen fish avoid sweetcorn, particular boilies both shelf life and food baits, tiger nuts, maize and a few other particles.
Ken Townley also wrote about College fish leaving tigers.
The prebaiting thing I mentioned earlier, if a food bait is not prebaited, and everytime the carp pick up the bait they get hooked, they can learn not to pick it up. Prebaiting again can restore some confidence, or maybe fishing with a bit more around the hook or both.
In reply to Post #12
That's because the environment is totally artificial. Massively overstocked. Eat or die.
Well said.
Fish have a simple choice, as so nicely said above.
This blowing of baits mixes in with that, and the stock levels of a water.
An 'overstocked' water fish need food to survive, simple, so that will have to be anglers baits, whereas a richer water, with less stock per acre, more natural food and carp can pick and choose from the available food, be that naturals, or anglers baits.
Years ago, Fred Wilton came up with the idea that any shortfall in the diet could be fulfilled by a food item that contains everything that they need. It wasn't Tim Paisley using the idea to sell bait, it was before that, 1960's/1970's.
Other anglers followed suit, some disagreeing totally, some disagreeing on point of nutrition, I.e. milk protein was not the best source of protein. Rod Hutchinson believed fishmeal was better for one, amongst his Particle experiments.
To my mind, milk protein is not the best, it can be indigestible without the correct enzymes, amylase and trypsin, which needed to be included in the bait, but as any bait maker will tell you, getting enzymes to work correctly after boiling...
Too few anglers consider the water that they are fishing; quite probably most are overstocked, so it takes longer for baits to blow.
I've seen fish avoid sweetcorn, particular boilies both shelf life and food baits, tiger nuts, maize and a few other particles.
Ken Townley also wrote about College fish leaving tigers.
The prebaiting thing I mentioned earlier, if a food bait is not prebaited, and everytime the carp pick up the bait they get hooked, they can learn not to pick it up. Prebaiting again can restore some confidence, or maybe fishing with a bit more around the hook or both.
Had a 62lb catfish on 2 jumbo tigers popped up with a piece of cork this morning 😀
Why haven't boilies blown.? Everyone uses them. 
In reply to Post #18
Never heard of tigers blowing but then no one wants to risk those sharpe teeth!
Never heard of tigers blowing but then no one wants to risk those sharpe teeth!
In reply to Post #16
Been using tigers since early ‘80s. Never on heavily stocked waters. Less was always more, and still is today where I am fishing for carp that have grown to target size on naturals.
I still find tigers catch the biggest ones best , usually over a little bit of hemp.
I note that Samir etc also favour tigers on those big public French waters.
I find it very hard to catch them on boilies on most of these wild US stillwaters too...
Been using tigers since early ‘80s. Never on heavily stocked waters. Less was always more, and still is today where I am fishing for carp that have grown to target size on naturals.
I still find tigers catch the biggest ones best , usually over a little bit of hemp.
I note that Samir etc also favour tigers on those big public French waters.
I find it very hard to catch them on boilies on most of these wild US stillwaters too...
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