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Camera and lens help (31 posts / 3,333 views)
smithylegend smithylegend
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Post #1 22 Feb 2022 10:42
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Hi guys so I currently use my Samsung s21 ultra for all my carpy pictures which is a decent quality but I'm looking to take it to the next level with a proper camera.

I have never used a proper camera before so need something that's fairly user friendly with a flip screen to help with those selfies and ideally within £600 for the camera.

I've heard a 35mm fixed lens is the best way to go if I'm literally just shooting trophy shots of my carp??

Can anyone please advise me...from my research I think the nikon d5600 camera body with the nikon 35mm fx lens seems to be a good match???
vinniecole vinniecole
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Post #2 22 Feb 2022 11:04
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In reply to Post #1
Iv got the Nikon d5300 and 35mm. Coupled with a rhino beam or Chinese equivalent, tripod and intervelometer which you can get for sub £20 is a decent set up for price
smithylegend smithylegend
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Post #3 22 Feb 2022 11:05
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In reply to Post #2
Does that camera have a flip screen for easy line up in the shots??
vinniecole vinniecole
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Post #4 22 Feb 2022 11:47
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In reply to Post #3
Yes mate. The 3300 is same spec minus WiFi, which I personally don't think it's worth the extra money for
smithylegend smithylegend
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Post #5 22 Feb 2022 11:51
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In reply to Post #4
Is there alot of difference between d5300 and d5600??surely the WiFi is only handy for moving pictures onto your phone which you could do with Bluetooth anyway can't you mate??
vinniecole vinniecole
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Post #6 22 Feb 2022 13:14
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In reply to Post #5
Not sure on the specs, but yeah you can transfer pics via WiFi and take pics from using your phone, but more gimmicky for me personally
J_BKR
Posts: 55
Post #7 22 Feb 2022 14:38
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In reply to Post #1
Remember to take into account the crop factor of your camera if it has an APS-C sensor (1.6x etc etc). Basically 35mm being more like 56mm. Still a nice focal length just pointing this out if you specifically wanted 35mm. The canon or nikon kit lens provide good focal range coverage to get started.

Check out the wex photo/video used section. They often have good camera models and lenses at a reasonable price. They check the condition of bodies and lenses. So you can be a bit more confident over a used purchase. More money towards a decent sharp lense as well.

Have a look at third party lenses as well. I'm a fan of sigma lenses. They are a step up from budget nikon and canon lenses (in fact some of there lenses outperform lenses much more expensive) and the image quality is really good.
smithylegend smithylegend
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Post #8 22 Feb 2022 16:01
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In reply to Post #7
I've read before that a 35mm lens is really a 52mm lens...please explain I'm confused 😅😅
smithylegend smithylegend
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Post #9 22 Feb 2022 16:02
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In reply to Post #7
I just want to take a really nice carp picture with a slight focus in background but me and fish in great focus and has abilities like flip screen for selfies and a flash for night time
nickfisherman
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Post #10 22 Feb 2022 17:40
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In reply to Post #8
Lenses are optimised for different sizes of sensor. If you use a full frame lens on a non-full frame sensor (for example APS-C) body, then the effect is to provide a further magnification/crop of the resulting image. The precise magnification difference varies but is generally around 1.4-1.6x.

I find it easiest to think of as a crop. The full size lens is projecting a large image onto the sensor, but the sensor is smaller than this image so can only actually see the centre of it. Essentially it takes a cropped image just of the middle of what the lens is actually showing. In the final image you get a narrower field of view/crop/higher magnification of what you'd get if the lens/body were paired correctly.

It's like if you had a picture on a piece of a4 paper, and then covered it with a frame that was a5 sized - within the frame you'd end up with an a5 crop of the full a4 image. You'd lose all the detail around the edges and you'd just get an image of the centre that appeared more zoomed.

Hope that makes sense?
AJM123 AJM123
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Post #11 22 Feb 2022 17:57
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In reply to Post #1
In my opinion the d5600 and the Nikon 35mm 1.8 fx lens would be a great combination.
I would also suggest an intervalometer (if the camera accepts one), a speed light (godox etc.) flash, and a half decent tripod.

smithylegend smithylegend
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Post #12 22 Feb 2022 18:21
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In reply to Post #10
Thank you 😊
smithylegend smithylegend
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Post #13 22 Feb 2022 18:22
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In reply to Post #11
Excellent I shall look at a decent flash and tripod
Jamesvg Jamesvg
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Post #14 22 Feb 2022 20:26
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I sold my nikon d5200 and swapped to a sony alpha6100 - I much prefer it, although am not really sure why, just lighter and a little more user friendly. Lenses are a decent price too and it has a flip screen.
You could get one of the older alpha 6000 range or the a5000 series new or one of the newer 6000 models second hand with a lense for your budget. Definately worth considering.
hyperloop hyperloop
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Post #15 22 Feb 2022 20:49
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In reply to Post #11
Agreed. I use a d5500 with the 35mm f1.8 and for anything fishing related it offers as much as you'd ever need.
You won't notice much, if any difference in image quality between the d5600 and the older models such as the d5200 etc. You'd need to read up on the specs and decide if the newer models are worth the extra money to you. The upgrades from model to model are usually pretty minimal.

I'd recommend buying a decent second hand job from Mpb or Wex. Both great companies that offer warranty and rate the product with honest shutter counts etc.

The 35mm's are perfect with crop sensor bodies.

Also all of the d5000 series that you have mentioned have built in intervalometers so no need to go and buy one of those separately.
villa1471
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Post #16 3 Sep 2023 15:21
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Just found this on eBay would this be any good??

Nikon D3200 Bundle 18-55mm + 35mm.


For sale is my much loved Nikon D3200


I have had this for many years now but now selling due to lack of use.


Comes with the original 18-55mm kit lens as well as a 35mm lens (brilliant for close up shots).


- Nikon D3200

- 18-55mm kit lens

- 35mm lens

- Camera Bag

- 2 x chargers

- Battery (I can only find one but if I find the other before sale then I will include it)

Ynnek
Posts: 888
Post #17 3 Sep 2023 18:11
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In reply to Post #16
Just ask how many click the sensor has...
For me this can be a dealbreaker if it goes over 10 000.
Carp87NL Carp87NL
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Post #18 4 Sep 2023 08:31
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In reply to Post #17
Have a d3200 bought for the children for when we go hiking with over 102.000 clicks now. Still works fine.
alpha-male
Posts: 199
Post #19 4 Sep 2023 08:31
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In reply to Post #17
Rubbish like this puts me off this forum... DSLR cameras, most are good for 500000, that's half a million for those who can't compute, shutter actuations. I've been a pro photographer for 30 years and reading camera threads on here makes me cringe.

Don't concern yourself with mega pixels or crop factors. Get over to somewhere like London camera exchange, wex anywhere that specialises in secondhand camera sales. Somewhere that will offer a warranty for peice of mind and get hands on. Tell the guys your criteria and take it from there. Go listen to a camera specialist rather than a random Joe off the Internet.
Ynnek
Posts: 888
Post #20 6 Sep 2023 19:37
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In reply to Post #19
I'm not arguing that a sensor can't handle 500000 clicks. I just want the best deal. So, less than 10000 clicks at reduced price. Otherwise, I buy new kit.

My rule of thumb is 10000 clicks because than it's nearly new and you can score a great deal!


alpha-male
Posts: 199
Post #21 7 Sep 2023 10:22
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In reply to Post #20
Mate, the sensor can handle millions. It's the mechanical shutter that can fail. So 1st correction. And I used to shoot weddings. 10000 would be 2 weddings LOL. So my pair of 6k cameras would be in the bin according to you, or dirt cheap borderline worthless. Matey, I would seriously revise where you get your info from. Or that spade and hole you're digging is going to be on overtime "kid.". In fact, go find me a camera with less than 10000 actuations on it at this bargain price you dream of.
nine0six nine0six
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Post #22 7 Sep 2023 21:36
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In reply to Post #21
5000 shots per wedding? Are they getting an album or a flip book?
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #23 7 Sep 2023 23:37
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In reply to Post #19
If you are a professional photographer then I can see how frustrating this can be, perhaps you should avoid camera threads, if after that you find you are still reading rubbish then maybe the forum isn't for you?
As for 'kid' I think that should read as 'kit' . An easy mistake that people make when posting.
alpha-male
Posts: 199
Post #24 8 Sep 2023 08:51
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In reply to Post #22
Out of 5k shots I'd be looking at presenting around 500 after a cull. And, agreed forum's really aren't for me...
nicky_napkins nicky_napkins
Posts: 597
Post #25 2 Sep 2024 18:25
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In reply to Post #15
So the ideal lens with no crop would be 50mm?
I know 70mm is best for natural, portrait pictures, but for pictures holding a fish maybe 50mm
yonny yonny
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Post #26 2 Sep 2024 21:26
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In reply to Post #25
Yeah. Imo 50 on a full frame sensor is prefect for trophy shots.
raztwc raztwc
Posts: 395
Post #27 2 Sep 2024 21:40
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In reply to Post #1
Canon 250d 24mm pancake lens rhino foot peddle jobs a good en
nicky_napkins nicky_napkins
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Post #28 2 Sep 2024 23:37
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In reply to Post #27
A 24mm will make the fish look ridiculously big wouldn't it?
Ynnek
Posts: 888
Post #29 3 Sep 2024 07:51
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In reply to Post #25
I prefer a 50mm as well
raztwc raztwc
Posts: 395
Post #30 3 Sep 2024 08:49
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In reply to Post #28
If it's not a full frame no 250d isn't a full frame
raztwc raztwc
Posts: 395
Post #31 3 Sep 2024 08:49
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In reply to Post #30
50mm on canon 250d has to be a fair bit away
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