Just a quick question. I've got a seat ibiza diesel this. Was having problems with it going into limp mode. I took it into the garage. Was told it was the egr valve sticking and needs to be replaced. And thay said it will cost around £700 all in. Its got a v.w engine in it and it's ment to be a common problem with them. Has anyone else had this problem with there car and was it a cheap fix?
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Better off joining a Seat or VW forum. They will tell you if it can be removed and cleaned and whether or not it is a hard or easy job.
Better off joining a Seat or VW forum. They will tell you if it can be removed and cleaned and whether or not it is a hard or easy job.
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What engine is it do you have a code?
What engine is it do you have a code?
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Yep,
Not a VW but another car £700 ish for a new valve
Swear blind mine ****ed up when i added some fuel cleaner
Like mentioned, a google VW EGR
Yep,
Not a VW but another car £700 ish for a new valve
Swear blind mine ****ed up when i added some fuel cleaner
Like mentioned, a google VW EGR
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No I don't have a code for it. It's a 1.6 tdi diesel.
No I don't have a code for it. It's a 1.6 tdi diesel.
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The £700 includes the labour but still a lot of money
The £700 includes the labour but still a lot of money
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Is that a main dealer or private garage.
Is that a main dealer or private garage.
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My son has a Skoda fabia 1.2tdi and the egr is located at the back of engine near the bottom and a good 5 hour job to replace. I suspect yours is similar therefore 700 all in is probably a decent price. Have you been quoted from a main dealer or independant garage.
My son has a Skoda fabia 1.2tdi and the egr is located at the back of engine near the bottom and a good 5 hour job to replace. I suspect yours is similar therefore 700 all in is probably a decent price. Have you been quoted from a main dealer or independant garage.
The quote is from a private garage I use for m.o.t and service and so on. Usually good on there prices. And yes thay told me it's at the back of the engine. Thay recon got to take exhaust of paet of prop sharft and so on thay told me its about a 5 hour job
Replaced mine (myself) on a Skoda superb 2ltr Tdi, (70'000 miles approx) cost approx £420 for the valve, gaskets etc and coolant from Tps (genuine parts)
If it's the same and bolts along the backside of the engine block it is a fiddle to do.
As said, drivers side drive shaft out, exhaust disconnected and moved to one side.
Turbo feed/return pipes to come off just to make access to the valve
So £700 does seem a lot but not really considering cost and time to do it
If it's the same and bolts along the backside of the engine block it is a fiddle to do.
As said, drivers side drive shaft out, exhaust disconnected and moved to one side.
Turbo feed/return pipes to come off just to make access to the valve
So £700 does seem a lot but not really considering cost and time to do it
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When you put it like that £700 sounds fair to me.
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When you put it like that £700 sounds fair to me.
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Unfortunately that price is very fair.
Heard of folk being quoted up to £1600 for a skoda superb at Dealers
I had the same issue on my modeo (05) and as it was easier access i opened it up and the egr and pipe were full of carbon.
Cleaned out what i could and used some carb cleaner to zap the rest and also fitted a blanking plate.
Cleaned out what i could and used some carb cleaner to zap the rest and also fitted a blanking plate.
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Interesting
Somebody told me that you can remove or disable them, not sure if that is viable but it could save people some money?
Interesting
Somebody told me that you can remove or disable them, not sure if that is viable but it could save people some money?
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You can get egr delete kits but could cause issues at the MOT time.
Not just emissions but the tester spotting it's been done
You can get egr delete kits but could cause issues at the MOT time.
Not just emissions but the tester spotting it's been done
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Nice one mate
Bit faulty by the sounds of it then, can't remember what I was told but I got a feeling it wasn't the right thing to do
Nice one mate
Bit faulty by the sounds of it then, can't remember what I was told but I got a feeling it wasn't the right thing to do
Well got car back today. Had a brand new egr valve and cooler cost me £800 in the end. In my local garage . It seems to be running better but don't no if that's just me.
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👍 sounds exactly like mine, the cooler is part of the valve
👍 sounds exactly like mine, the cooler is part of the valve
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Yer the garage gave the unit back. Look-alike you can take it apart. But probably not worth it. It the 2 holes going into it where messy
Yer the garage gave the unit back. Look-alike you can take it apart. But probably not worth it. It the 2 holes going into it where messy
My mate at work just mapped the fault out of his audi a4 so it can no longer be detected and hes never had a problem since and that was nearly two years ago and he has had no issues with it since. Egr valves are only there for emissions and cars ran perfectly alright before them.
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It probably is running better, i had to change the egr in my mk6 2.0tdi golf last year as it was intermittently going into limp mode over a 2 year period, a lad at work is very good with vcds and my faults were showing as the egr not reaching 100% open and and fully closed so we played with some settings giving it bigger tolerance and recalibrated it,
It got away with it for another year then started going into limp mode again recalibrated it but suspected it now wasn't fully closing as getting rough idle and car wasn't running well it lasted couple more months before limp mode again sticking egr, so decicded to change it.
As others have already said depending on model it is a real pain to do when they changed from mk5 golf to mk 6 they moved the egr from the top of the engine to the bottom at the back main dealers were charging in the region of 7 hours labour dropping subframe, drive shafts exhaust cooler etc
I have another mate that was a vw mastertech he said he knows quicker way just removed drive shaft, exhaust, bottom engine mount and pushed engine forward to accesss, 3hrs start to finish i gave him £500 for full job and and vw egr and other parts needed he obviously gets good discount. Your £800 at a garage isn't really high and would be the norm from most garages
I instantly noticed the car running better and fuel economy went back up to what it had been couple of years previous, as stuart says you could have deleted it from ecu which isn't strictly legal and if detected would fail mot but also by doing this you also have to mechanically blank the egr in effect fully closing it.
It probably is running better, i had to change the egr in my mk6 2.0tdi golf last year as it was intermittently going into limp mode over a 2 year period, a lad at work is very good with vcds and my faults were showing as the egr not reaching 100% open and and fully closed so we played with some settings giving it bigger tolerance and recalibrated it,
It got away with it for another year then started going into limp mode again recalibrated it but suspected it now wasn't fully closing as getting rough idle and car wasn't running well it lasted couple more months before limp mode again sticking egr, so decicded to change it.
As others have already said depending on model it is a real pain to do when they changed from mk5 golf to mk 6 they moved the egr from the top of the engine to the bottom at the back main dealers were charging in the region of 7 hours labour dropping subframe, drive shafts exhaust cooler etc
I have another mate that was a vw mastertech he said he knows quicker way just removed drive shaft, exhaust, bottom engine mount and pushed engine forward to accesss, 3hrs start to finish i gave him £500 for full job and and vw egr and other parts needed he obviously gets good discount. Your £800 at a garage isn't really high and would be the norm from most garages
I instantly noticed the car running better and fuel economy went back up to what it had been couple of years previous, as stuart says you could have deleted it from ecu which isn't strictly legal and if detected would fail mot but also by doing this you also have to mechanically blank the egr in effect fully closing it.
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