Looking for a bit of help.
After many years of making my own baits based on the a high percentage of fishmeal and quality milk proteins and birdseed this year I wont be able to make my own due to time restraints due to work and family commitments. I'm not looking for an all season type of bait but a frozen readymade based on the same principle that I will be using during summer/autumn as in winter I only use maggots and corn and high attract singles. Price is not an issue I'm looking for quality over quantity. Any help would be most appreciated
After many years of making my own baits based on the a high percentage of fishmeal and quality milk proteins and birdseed this year I wont be able to make my own due to time restraints due to work and family commitments. I'm not looking for an all season type of bait but a frozen readymade based on the same principle that I will be using during summer/autumn as in winter I only use maggots and corn and high attract singles. Price is not an issue I'm looking for quality over quantity. Any help would be most appreciated
In reply to Post #1
If price isnt a issue i dont think they come much better than John Bakers Bio Shellfish. Drop him an email and discuss your requirements, hes very helpful
If price isnt a issue i dont think they come much better than John Bakers Bio Shellfish. Drop him an email and discuss your requirements, hes very helpful
In reply to Post #2
Thanks mate john Baker baits are one of the ones I was looking at alongside elite baits just wanted to see if anyone knew of anything else before I made up my mind
Thanks mate john Baker baits are one of the ones I was looking at alongside elite baits just wanted to see if anyone knew of anything else before I made up my mind
In reply to Post #3
Elite baits takes me back, i used them about 20 years ago. Always was good quality. I would say you wouldnt go far wrong with either.
Elite baits takes me back, i used them about 20 years ago. Always was good quality. I would say you wouldnt go far wrong with either.
In reply to Post #1
As already mentioned John Baker. Been using his stuff for 15 years and to the best of my knowledge the quality has never changed
As already mentioned John Baker. Been using his stuff for 15 years and to the best of my knowledge the quality has never changed
In reply to Post #4
Yeah I used to use elite baits about 20 years ago as well before I then decided to start making my own. I used to love the smokey mackerel and had my first 30 on them many moons ago lol
Yeah I used to use elite baits about 20 years ago as well before I then decided to start making my own. I used to love the smokey mackerel and had my first 30 on them many moons ago lol
In reply to Post #5
Yeah jb does make a quality bait and his bio shellfish is top quality
Yeah jb does make a quality bait and his bio shellfish is top quality
In reply to Post #6
Yes smokey was a fantastic bait, better than the cream cracker i found although many seemed to prefer the cream. I started using JB but got fed up of rolling my own (he didnt have a rolling service then) so i moved onto Elite i used to collect if from Ollies house then i moved away but you got me thinking now, I may look at getting some more.
Yes smokey was a fantastic bait, better than the cream cracker i found although many seemed to prefer the cream. I started using JB but got fed up of rolling my own (he didnt have a rolling service then) so i moved onto Elite i used to collect if from Ollies house then i moved away but you got me thinking now, I may look at getting some more.
In reply to Post #8
I used to pick it up direct from ollie as well and always found the smokey mack a take anywhere bait but my old man would always swear by the cream cracker as he had his first 50 in france on them from etang de margot.
I used to pick it up direct from ollie as well and always found the smokey mack a take anywhere bait but my old man would always swear by the cream cracker as he had his first 50 in france on them from etang de margot.
In reply to Post #2
John baker doesn't offer a rolled bait service any longer unfortunately
John baker doesn't offer a rolled bait service any longer unfortunately
In reply to Post #10
I didn't realise he had stopped supplying a rolling service thanks for the info mate
I didn't realise he had stopped supplying a rolling service thanks for the info mate
In reply to Post #1
If you dont mind paying for the privilege then maybe blakes hnv pro might fit the bill. It was designed to use the absolute best quality ingredients for people who dont mind paying for it. Message keeperboy on here for more info.
If you dont mind paying for the privilege then maybe blakes hnv pro might fit the bill. It was designed to use the absolute best quality ingredients for people who dont mind paying for it. Message keeperboy on here for more info.
In reply to Post #12
Thanks mate I will have a look
Thanks mate I will have a look
I've not used it personally but I've seen A LOT of people on here vouch for ABS and I think their top fishmeal is the Hydra K.
May want to speak to someone who uses it first though.
May want to speak to someone who uses it first though.
In reply to Post #1
Rollin Baits do some very high quality fishmeals.
Rollin Baits do some very high quality fishmeals.
In reply to Post #1
Would be worth speaking with Spencer at Aqua baits about what you are looking for.
High quality baits, some with a similar sounding make up to your homemades so would be an interesting conversation if nothing else.
Would be worth speaking with Spencer at Aqua baits about what you are looking for.
High quality baits, some with a similar sounding make up to your homemades so would be an interesting conversation if nothing else.
In reply to Post #14
Hydra k is a very good bait but to many people I know use it on my waters and I always like to be different thanks tho
Hydra k is a very good bait but to many people I know use it on my waters and I always like to be different thanks tho
In reply to Post #17
Spencer does make quality bait but again to many people on my lakes use the hot shrimp and I've always stuck to the saying fish the same as everyone else and u catch the same but thanks for the suggestion
Spencer does make quality bait but again to many people on my lakes use the hot shrimp and I've always stuck to the saying fish the same as everyone else and u catch the same but thanks for the suggestion
In reply to Post #15
Thanks mate I will take a look I've just ordered 50kg of elite baits smokey mackerel as I know no one uses this on my waters and it's a top bait and I'm pretty sure no one is on the rollin baits stuff
Thanks mate I will take a look I've just ordered 50kg of elite baits smokey mackerel as I know no one uses this on my waters and it's a top bait and I'm pretty sure no one is on the rollin baits stuff
In reply to Post #16
I did have a look at the pro hnv and looks a good bait but its make up is not like what I make myself as I like to have between 40 - 45% fishmeal, 25% milks which include acid casein, wpc 80, lactalbumen, calcium caseinate and a bit of lamlac and then a mixture of red factor,nectarblend and clo in my baits . I know I cant get exactly what I do myself but have always used nutrabaits BFM as a guide to do a proper old school fishmeal 
I did have a look at the pro hnv and looks a good bait but its make up is not like what I make myself as I like to have between 40 - 45% fishmeal, 25% milks which include acid casein, wpc 80, lactalbumen, calcium caseinate and a bit of lamlac and then a mixture of red factor,nectarblend and clo in my baits
. I know I cant get exactly what I do myself but have always used nutrabaits BFM as a guide to do a proper old school fishmeal
In reply to Post #19
Fair point that mate
Fair point that mate
In reply to Post #21
Asylum Baits receptor marine could be what you are after. Very high quality and used by some very good anglers on the quiet. Kenny Gates is the man behind it, a very knowledgeable and nice bloke with it. Give him a ring, I'm sure he will help you out. He's proper old school, doesn't do FB or publicity but he makes blinding bait. Kevin Ellis had done a video recently and previously about Asylum. Check it out. This is not an advert btw. I don't know the guy but I am looking to use one of his bits this winter.
Asylum Baits receptor marine could be what you are after. Very high quality and used by some very good anglers on the quiet. Kenny Gates is the man behind it, a very knowledgeable and nice bloke with it. Give him a ring, I'm sure he will help you out. He's proper old school, doesn't do FB or publicity but he makes blinding bait. Kevin Ellis had done a video recently and previously about Asylum. Check it out. This is not an advert btw. I don't know the guy but I am looking to use one of his bits this winter.
In reply to Post #23
SV1 from Poacherbaits, ive been using it for quite a few yrs now
SV1 from Poacherbaits, ive been using it for quite a few yrs now
In reply to Post #23
Thanks mate I did try and give kenny a call and left a message and still not got a reply as his probably super busy since the video was posted
Thanks mate I did try and give kenny a call and left a message and still not got a reply as his probably super busy since the video was posted
In reply to Post #24
Top man thanks mate just had a look this bait looks spot on
Top man thanks mate just had a look this bait looks spot on
In reply to Post #20
Just to add - after speaking at length with Dave Moore about his BFM mix the only one that is the original is the one rolled by Rollin Baits. The version that Nutrabaits sell is missing a particular ingredient and the supplier of that ingredient only supply Rollin Baits in the UK and no one else.
Just to add - after speaking at length with Dave Moore about his BFM mix the only one that is the original is the one rolled by Rollin Baits. The version that Nutrabaits sell is missing a particular ingredient and the supplier of that ingredient only supply Rollin Baits in the UK and no one else.
In reply to Post #27
Thanks for that mate it's good to know when a company keeps to the original recipe, I was having a look at there inception boilies and the game boilies but the game ones I dont think are a fishmeal have you used any of these 2 baits?
Thanks for that mate it's good to know when a company keeps to the original recipe, I was having a look at there inception boilies and the game boilies but the game ones I dont think are a fishmeal have you used any of these 2 baits?
Thanks for everyone's help I'm all sorted now gone with elite baits smokey mackerel and after a phone call with rollin baits the game as this is a high quality fishmeal
In reply to Post #27
I thought they were no longer allowed to make this following litigation by Nutrabaits?
I thought they were no longer allowed to make this following litigation by Nutrabaits?
In reply to Post #1
Hydra K smashes it. Total confidence all the time, I wouldn't be without it now. As long as you don't want it preserved because ABS don't do a shelf life version I don't think. But would highly recommend. Or speak to Geoff to make your own custom bait. 👍👍👍
Hydra K smashes it. Total confidence all the time, I wouldn't be without it now. As long as you don't want it preserved because ABS don't do a shelf life version I don't think. But would highly recommend. Or speak to Geoff to make your own custom bait. 👍👍👍
In reply to Post #31
Indeed. Hydra K really is the best bait I've ever used. Total confidence in any of ABS's baits. What Geoff doesn't know about bait isn't worth knowing imo.
Plan B and the i bait especially are absolute stonkers too.
Indeed. Hydra K really is the best bait I've ever used. Total confidence in any of ABS's baits. What Geoff doesn't know about bait isn't worth knowing imo.
Plan B and the i bait especially are absolute stonkers too.
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