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Stop Fish being removed from UK Rivers & Streams (47 posts / 3,180 views)
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #1 29 Apr 2020 09:29
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Another forum member found this petition addressed to the EA and I thought it deserves it's own thread
LINK
rivers rivers
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Post #2 29 Apr 2020 09:41
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I've been banging on about that stupid EA rule for years ,
Signed 👍
Hopefully everyone will show some interest and sign .
daveman daveman
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Post #3 29 Apr 2020 09:52
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Done 👍🏻 didn't even know this existed
ralph69 ralph69
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Post #4 29 Apr 2020 10:09
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Done
Huge_jarse Huge_jarse
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Post #5 29 Apr 2020 10:14
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Done
Speckledhen
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Post #6 29 Apr 2020 11:03
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Done.
scaley&dark
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Post #7 29 Apr 2020 11:35
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Signed

Victory Victory
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Post #8 29 Apr 2020 11:46
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done
Afcdon Afcdon
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Post #9 29 Apr 2020 12:34
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Done 👍
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #10 29 Apr 2020 13:46
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Done and shared on my facebook page

thank you for posting it
woody71
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Post #11 29 Apr 2020 14:18
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also signed and shared
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #12 29 Apr 2020 14:23
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In reply to Post #1
Signed and shared.
Enut Enut
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Post #13 29 Apr 2020 14:37
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I have to admit I genuinely had no idea you could take coarse fish from rivers and streams!

Signed.
richie.d richie.d
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Post #14 29 Apr 2020 15:10
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Signed
madi madi
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Post #15 29 Apr 2020 15:57
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Signed 👍
ken
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Post #16 29 Apr 2020 17:43
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In reply to Post #3
From the EA website.

Catch limits
There's a daily limit on the number of fish you can take.
Coarse (freshwater) fish
Each day you can only take from rivers:
1 pike (up to 65cm)
2 grayling (30cm to 38cm)
15 small fish (up to 20cm) including barbel, chub, common bream, common carp, crucian carp, dace, perch, rudd, silver bream, roach, smelt and tench
Any eels you catch (except conger eels) must be released alive.
You can also take:
minor or ‘tiddler' species, such as gudgeon
non-native species
ornamental varieties of native species like ghost or koi carp
Doughnutz
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Post #17 29 Apr 2020 18:11
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Signed
Mr-Magoo Mr-Magoo
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Post #18 29 Apr 2020 18:15
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Done
duggs
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Post #19 29 Apr 2020 18:54
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I would, but it would effectively ban live baiting, or using fresh deadbaits....
rivers rivers
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Post #20 29 Apr 2020 19:03
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I thought it said on the petition that dead baiting , using fish from the same water was ok ?
Not sure about live baiting , but then I think that will have to be banned next .
duggs
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Post #21 29 Apr 2020 19:28
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So it does, I was still focused on the spelling errors from the previous paragraphs and that bit didn't sink in.

Which fish gets to be the baron? Will the Prince of the river outrank it?

I'll probably sign it, but it seems a bit half arsed like the otter petitions, I don't suppose they can edit it once it's been published
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #22 29 Apr 2020 19:29
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It says
We believe that there should also be a small allowance obtainable for predator anglers to be able to use only in the water they are caught in as bait.

Edit
Oh you've seen it
Bacardiblue Bacardiblue
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Post #23 29 Apr 2020 22:03
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Baza1075
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Post #24 29 Apr 2020 23:00
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In reply to Post #19
Surely live baits are returned to the water in one way or another.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #25 29 Apr 2020 23:06
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That's a good point
Boiliebasher86 Boiliebasher86
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Post #26 30 Apr 2020 07:07
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Signed
the_poacher the_poacher
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Post #27 30 Apr 2020 18:51
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Signed!
tiggernut tiggernut
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Post #28 30 Apr 2020 19:30
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Done
mark1009
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Post #29 30 Apr 2020 19:34
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We have precious few rights enshrined in law in this country. Why vote to sign them away. It's like the right to vote. If you don't want to exercise it then just don't do it. No need to recind the right to do it.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #30 30 Apr 2020 19:44
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Unfortunately there is a unscrupulous minority that use and bend this rule to take as many fish as they possibly can
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #31 1 May 2020 09:51
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I'm genuinely amazed that any angler has that attitude to the removal of freshwater fish from our lakes and rivers.
Such an outdated law I just don't understand why it hasn't been changed long ago.
johnnyfubar johnnyfubar
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Post #32 3 May 2020 19:53
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Hi Bob,

I understand it's a problem, but who is doing it and to what end?
(Not really looking for the usual EE rants, just an honest answer on what's going on)

Best

Jon
mal mal
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Post #33 3 May 2020 19:58
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Hi Jon

As a regular angler on the irwell and occasionally on the ribble I can assure you it's not the stereotypical EE response. Regularly seen - and reported - non EE culprits taking the Mickey. ...

Mal
Pooter
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Post #34 3 May 2020 19:59
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EE is by far the main problem.
johnnyfubar johnnyfubar
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Post #35 3 May 2020 20:05
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In reply to Post #33
Hi Mal

Can you elaborate on why it's going on? Profit, stocking their own place, food? Can't think of any other reasonable reasons for it

Best

Jon
mal mal
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Post #36 3 May 2020 20:23
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Who knows?

I did get wind of a bloke who was selling trout on to restaurants. As I say, I let the EA know and gave them his registration number. He'd been putting long lines in the river like they used to do on the seashores. Bad form.

Not much more I could do really apart from offering great him outside...

Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #37 3 May 2020 21:15
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Well done Mal but that's not the experience of many people. I know you won't agree but I have to say it's EE's taking fish for the plate It's not just rivers and streams but the current rule only cover them.
mal mal
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Post #38 3 May 2020 21:23
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Not denying that problem at all tinhead. It's a cultural thing that doesn't translate.

That's why I think the petition is good as it's more of a catch all solution - hopefully
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #39 3 May 2020 22:40
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Yes it is a cultural thing. I'm pleasantly surprised we can agree
mal mal
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Post #40 3 May 2020 23:53
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absolutely

but as always, I'll try and avoid blind stereotyping

anyway - i'm sure the bloke I mentioned was a cockney....
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #41 4 May 2020 00:17
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He should he hung drawn and quartered then, us posh middle class people can't stand cockneys
mal mal
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Post #42 4 May 2020 00:56
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rivers rivers
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Post #43 4 May 2020 09:51
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It's quite obvious who the majority of people stealing our fish are 🙄 calling it a cultural thing is no excuse anymore , they know it's wrong and don't give a fudge .
It's an even bigger problem across Europe , with gangs setting up refrigeration units and taking tons of coarse fish , especially in Spain and Italy
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #44 4 May 2020 10:48
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I agree they can't use it as an excuse but it is in their culture to do those things.
Pooter
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Post #45 4 May 2020 13:19
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What, theft?
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #46 4 May 2020 13:43
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I shall be careful here.
I'm not sure what the crime rate in those EE countries is but I won't tar them all and say their culture is to thieve but in my experience a disproportional amount of them here do not abide by the law.
That's not to say they aren't any who do not do good and contribute
That's about as PC as I can make it while doing my best not to upset Mal
mal mal
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Post #47 4 May 2020 13:58
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Good work Tinhead

Gents - sign the petition (actually you probably already have) and do something positive. No point in this thread getting sidetracked when it was started with good intentions eh?

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