Hi all I'm toying with the idea of making some pebble weights, my question is what type an size drill bit an do I just epoxy the swivel in the hole

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Take a look at the palatrax stonz.

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4mm I believe

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Twist a bit of wire onto the eye of the swivel before you Araldite it in. Holds much better.

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just be aware stones are lighter than lead size for size and the irregular shape means they cast terribly
gorilla glue is what you need and use a Diamond Core Drill Bit to drill and do it in a bowl of water

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Hi Stu

I use this type of swivel with the diamond patern on them, they seem to hold better once glued in.

https://www.google.com/search?q=salt+water+fishing+swivel&client=ms-android-telstra-au&source=android-browser&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwintoq6qv_kAhVEcCsKHd-tCPEQ_AUoAnoECA4QAg&biw=360&bih=520#imgrc=o7xbhg2B2aEtGM

I got a job lot of 200 in black off ebay for the equivalent of about £10.

Drilling as per Gerry's comments, just use the correct size drillbit for the swivel size. And make sure the hole is completely clean before glueing.

If you are going to use glue: once you have clipped off one of the loops hold the whole swivel in a piece of toilet paper so only the other loop is showing and spray wd40 (tiniest amount you can) where it joins the barrel, make sure you dont get any on the barrell. This will help to make sure it doesnt get glued in place.
Then glue in.
Good idea to test the strength of it all before you use it on the bank. Ive been doing it for years, but every once in a while you get one that just doesnt hold

Hope it helps

Best

Jon

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I have made some stone weights but my advice use a pillar drill if possible and put the swivel in with a piece of wire and use Milliput apoxy putty .

I chatted up my dentist and he gave me some old drill bits that had caused misery to so many. Attached to a Dremel type drill they worked well - but pebbles are tough - and i fixed them with Milliput Epoxy.

If you are fishing from a boat, a stone with a swivel superglued to it will suffice. Much cheaper than the Korda boy approach of dumping 8oz of lead each drop.

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Have a look at this

https://youtu.be/JWrmwLwIC5Q

I know the thread is 16 months old, but, rather than start a new one....first of all I couldn't find a diamond drill bit the size I wanted, then, pebbles are really hard, I have lots of masonry bits and a few electric drills, and a pillar drill, the question is....have you caught more after using these pebble weights, is it worth the hassle?

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Hey up Jim,

Save yourself some time and effort, although I have not used stones I have had a dabble over the years with lots of stuff. For instance. I have soaked leads in the lake silt for a few weeks to “season” them, took sand and gravel home from a couple of lakes, dried it out and coated my leads with araldite and then said coating, the gravel can make sharp edges, not good for pinging against line (found one a few weeks ago, happy memories), drilled leads and inserted foam, white bottle leads were the rage at one point, sure coloured leads will be back, leads resembling pond life. I have tried various modified method feeders and after all this I would happily use a bog standard lead off the shelf lol


Nothing ventured by yourself though, nothing gained, good luck with it, I like a thinking angler

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I like a thinking angler
So do I Chris

I agree with you on this one, use bog standard leads, I've made about 8 now, too much peeing about.

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Used them loads of times, never bothered drilling them just araldited a small loop of braid onto them. They have their uses, especially on some areas of the river where you lose loads and loads of leads. The araldite loop comes off without too much pressure so you normally get the rig back and the pebbles come up quickly in the water upon the retrieve.

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What size are you after?
5mm is probably the smallest readily available

Waste of time imo, they don't cast well, make bigger splashes..
The eco aspect is all its got going for it, but then your using epoxy to glue a swivel in, how eco friendly is that?

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I'm not looking for any drills now, just wondered if it gives you an edge on hard waters, no more, I'll stick yo my home coated leads, as you say they cast better,

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I thought about it and then put a standard lead into practice.
So many variables and the fact a fish really is a fish I gave up 30 years ago. Pleased you tried it, it's kinda fun we have all tried one thing or another during our periods of development and no doubt we will continue and that's it in a bit shell for me the greatest gift is that what ever you have done in the past that was successful doesn't mean it will be again although a lot of times it is however the point being don't remain static.

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NO Waste of time IMO

after my test of spraying leads with a fluorescent pink paint I decided its just for the anglers confidence if the fish knew what a lead was they would be uncatchable we credit them with far more intelligence than they have

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we credit them with far more intelligence than they have
Yes some people give them far too much

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many years ago in those secretive days we picked up a whisper that replacing leads with the glass pendants from light fittings was a great edge .... we tried it .... it wasn't.
Tried allsorts over the years ... my conclusion is Carp don't seem fussed about leads.
To be fair it's nice to use things that you have made yourself and I dread to think how much lead we are dumping into our lakes.
I popped a fishspy on a popular gravel spot on a well known pit and dropped leads were visible. how many must be hidden in the silt?

I agree with the comments "we credit them with far more intelligence than they have", but, when they take the freebies on the surface and leave the hook bait....you have to wonder sometimes.

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I once fished a popular day ticket on a social with my mates and got chatting to the bloke in the next swim, really nice fella, anyway, we were talking all things rigs and edges like you do. He brought his right hand rod in to show me something special that he was using...

... he had got an old stick from the branch of some kind of tree that sunk, it was around 8 inches long, he had drilled it out down the centre and threaded his rig through it, in essence, a lead, a stick with a 2inch pop up coming out of the end of it, hows that for camo

PMSL, WTF, he blanked

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I've done that or similar for surface fishing, fish on the
top, me without a float, what a great idea....think I blanked
as well.

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I have used sticks as a floater controller long time ago, used to fasten them on with float rubbers, looked fantastic. Only reason I stopped, you had to go through one of the rubbers twice with the line if that makes sense, otherwise it would slide down the line when I casted out, down side is when you got a fish, could mess the line up a bit