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I don't personally see it as cheating oneself when it comes to changing their own physique for their own pleasure, however I do get a sense of frustration when people compete while enhanced, in sports which do offer an untested federation. I get why in top level sport everyone does it to some extent as the financial incentive is there, but in low level athletics/track and field/powerlifting/bodybuilding when people can compete without any fault in an untested federation but choose to try and cheat in a tested one, it does really wind me up. Its a pyrrhic victory at best for them and a real blow to people who want to compete naturally.
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#108 13 Jul 2022 at 5.56pm | | | |
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#107 13 Jul 2022 at 1.56pm | | | |
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No medical professional would advise using them. However they can and do give advise on the safest way to use them. Most of the professionals do their work on consulting damage mitigation which they are obliged to do.
I feel like the tone of your post suggests that you do not agree with the use of PEDs and that is absolutely fine. However you suggest that it is not sportsman like behaviour to use them as a way to gain advantage over another individual. I would be in agreement with this if all other athletes were not using some kind of pharmacological enhancement, however the VAST majority of all athletes across all sports are using them, even in the areas you wouldn’t expect them to. For example many chess players will use testosterone and amphetamine derivatives for enhanced cognitive abilities and figure skaters will use testosterone for its neurological and motor pattern enhancing properties along with various peptides for damage mitigation on their joints due to the high angular velocities the sport puts on their joints.
The testing system of WADA/USADA etc are set up so that they do not catch people, or at the very least so they can catch people of their choosing. The athletes are informed of testing periods. There is a large area around the average blood androgen content which athletes are allowed to fall within, the upper limit being so outrageously higher than a normal individual to account for the freaks of nature who may potentially be in this area. Therefore, if you’re blood doesn’t naturally contain this high of a concentration, an athlete can exogenously introduce the required amount of androgens so that they are at the upper limit. there is literally NO WAY you can test for this. These athletes are simply levelling the playing field at this point. Growth hormone has a metabolic half life of a couple of hours. Athletes can use this year round as long as they don’t test for it within a few hours of administration, there is no feasible way to detect this as the metabolites of it aren’t readily detectable. There’s a huge correlation between the introduction of growth hormones in the 80s and the increased longevity of athletes in sport. Is it a coincidence? Possibly, but highly unlikely.
Another way that testing is set up to fail is that if an athlete decides they want to ‘retire’ from the sport they are no longer subjected to testing at any period. They can take a few month/years off of the sport, take as many short acting ester drugs as they want, then when they want to compete again, rejoin the sports governing body, with increased muscle mass/speed/power etc and not get caught. Sound like any professional boxers you know of?
Anyway onto your final point about the ‘juice heads’ being good research material. I hate to say it but you’re wrong. The only good research in medicine are controlled clinical trials where there is one modifiable variable. Most ‘juice heads’ are on multiple different compounds so it’s night on impossible to actually understand what is causing their altered physiology, particularly when they have deceased. However active blood work taking whilst using anabolics does provide some insight, but correlation doesn’t equal causation and there are too many variables at play to really gain any meaningful understanding.
I don’t think many are well versed on the subject of PEDs and a lot of the opinions on here are pure conjecture at best. If you want to listen to a decent podcast about doping in sport and it’s huge prevelance, go listen to any Broderick chavez podcast on Spotify as he has personally worked with many sportsmen (he doesn’t name them on the podcast) who have won Olympic medals, rugby world cups and super bowls. The information on who the individuals are is available on the internet too. So please, have a listen and see what you think about the idea of the idea of clean sport.
All the best,
Tom
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#106 12 Jul 2022 at 5.45pm | | | |
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#105 12 Jul 2022 at 5.29pm | | | |
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He probably can’t say anything further as he clicked on that hyperlink and his machine has been ransomwared
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#104 12 Jul 2022 at 2.31pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #103
You're replying to a bot!
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#103 12 Jul 2022 at 2.18pm | | | |
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I haven't been active on here for such a long time but I've had to come back on to address this comment.
The fact you are openly trying to promote the use of Lignadrol is ridiculous. Lignadrol is a SARM (selective androgen receptor modulator) and will suppress natural testosterone production to the same extent as any anabolic steroid through the same suppression loop of the HTPA axis. It requires the use of PCT (post cycle therapy) the same as other anabolics, or failing that, the use of exogenous testosterone continually to address the suppression.
I have no issues with the use of PEDs for sport or physique enhancement, especially when its done safely with the consultation of a medical professional. For reference, that includes doing it yourself, but consulting with a healthcare practitioner honestly when addressing the potential issues with physiology that might come as a result of it.
Most anabolic steroids that are used for sport and physique enhancement have much more extensive research and information available on them than all of the SARMs that are on the market. This means that safe usage is much more achievable because of the understanding we have of treating the associated complications. So to suggest using a relatively unknown compound, without the guidance or knowledge of the required products needed to mitigate its side effects is honestly just moronic. It shows how deep the level of misunderstanding of sports supplements that you have.
My work is in endocrinology for sports performance so if anybody has any genuine questions regarding the use of PEDs, please feel free to DM me instead of listening to this absolutely awful information on here.
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#102 8 Jul 2022 at 11.27am | | | |
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#101 7 Jul 2022 at 2.08pm | | | |
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You need to put a great deal of effort into your work. Put in extra-long hours if needed. Check out https://betterme.world/articles/4-day-lifting-routine/ suggestions. You can work at high intensity, completing a large volume of work outs. But big body is possible without steroids.
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#100 7 Jul 2022 at 1.48pm | | | |
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Never used steroids. Maybe I don't know any positive effect of them, but I think it's better to tran your body naturally to not deflate like a balloon in a short period.
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#89 3 Jan 2021 at 11.17pm | | | |
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It’s sounds more profitable than making bait in your shed and selling for 6 quid a kilo.
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#88 3 Jan 2021 at 10.06pm | | | |
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yes quite a bit aswell. bit of a twist as in who done it now has come out in the open.. 
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