In reply to Post #105
Try this Dean, very informative, very simple and an excellent place to start.
http://www.fishforcarp.com/html/make%20boilies.htm
The majority of ingredients are available from the likes of Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Holland and Barrett, asian supermarkets, decent pet stores and health food shops. Decent local tackle shops should be able to supply flavours. Fishmeal maybe a slight problem to locate, but try grinding some trout/salmon pellets to a fine powder as a substitute.
These recipe's will catch but they won't be as nutritious as the ones mentioned, however if you're just starting to dabble with making bait then the above is a good place to start and will teach you the basics of bait making and the properties of various ingredients.
Hope this helps
Try this Dean, very informative, very simple and an excellent place to start.
http://www.fishforcarp.com/html/make%20boilies.htm
The majority of ingredients are available from the likes of Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Holland and Barrett, asian supermarkets, decent pet stores and health food shops. Decent local tackle shops should be able to supply flavours. Fishmeal maybe a slight problem to locate, but try grinding some trout/salmon pellets to a fine powder as a substitute.
These recipe's will catch but they won't be as nutritious as the ones mentioned, however if you're just starting to dabble with making bait then the above is a good place to start and will teach you the basics of bait making and the properties of various ingredients.
Hope this helps
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This was a good helpfull thread for someone new to bait making like myself. I hav gone for the more nutrition based recipes as i want to start as i mean to go on. Everything is ordered and i am fishing the weekend hopefully on my own boilies will let you know how i get on.
This was a good helpfull thread for someone new to bait making like myself. I hav gone for the more nutrition based recipes as i want to start as i mean to go on. Everything is ordered and i am fishing the weekend hopefully on my own boilies will let you know how i get on.
In reply to Post #107
Firstly, apologies for digging up an old thread.
I have been making my own boilies on and off for years but have always used pre-mixed base mixes such as Big Fish Mix, but now I have all the proper gear, air gun, compressor etc I want to have a go at making my own base mix so I can keep the cost down. Found this thread and decided to give this recipe a go:
BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe
10% Semolina
10% Soya flour (heat treated)
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
5% Equivite
After a bit of research it appears you can use Selenavite E at half the inclusion level of the Equivite which isn't a bad thing as it's much cheaper to start with.
So, if the Selenavite is put in at 2.5%, instead of the 5% Equivite, what else in the mix should be increased to make up the 2.5% without ruining it.
Also, can you substitute CLO for the CeDe or are they two completely different things?
May well be daft questions but as I said, never made up a base mix before and don't want to cock it up.
Firstly, apologies for digging up an old thread.
I have been making my own boilies on and off for years but have always used pre-mixed base mixes such as Big Fish Mix, but now I have all the proper gear, air gun, compressor etc I want to have a go at making my own base mix so I can keep the cost down. Found this thread and decided to give this recipe a go:
BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe
10% Semolina
10% Soya flour (heat treated)
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
5% Equivite
After a bit of research it appears you can use Selenavite E at half the inclusion level of the Equivite which isn't a bad thing as it's much cheaper to start with.
So, if the Selenavite is put in at 2.5%, instead of the 5% Equivite, what else in the mix should be increased to make up the 2.5% without ruining it.
Also, can you substitute CLO for the CeDe or are they two completely different things?
May well be daft questions but as I said, never made up a base mix before and don't want to cock it up.
In reply to Post #108
I'd add an additive, some robin red or GLM or both
I'd add an additive, some robin red or GLM or both
In reply to Post #108
Can't see anything wrong with replacing the cede with clo
As for an extra ingredient...... The choices are endless. Have a play with some things and have fun, taking into account the other ingredients of coarse e.g soluble levels etc
Can't see anything wrong with replacing the cede with clo
As for an extra ingredient...... The choices are endless. Have a play with some things and have fun, taking into account the other ingredients of coarse e.g soluble levels etc
In reply to Post #108
Leave well alone. The BM1 need nothing at all. Tweak at your peril!
Leave well alone. The BM1 need nothing at all. Tweak at your peril!
In reply to Post #111
Ken, do you not think ingredients such as betaine, chilli or salt might be an advantage?
Ken, do you not think ingredients such as betaine, chilli or salt might be an advantage?
In reply to Post #112
Short answer, not really. The recipe as Smurf tells is it as near perfect as it gets!
Short answer, not really. The recipe as Smurf tells is it as near perfect as it gets!
In reply to Post #113
Fair play, looks like a great straight forward mix.
Sometimes I think I go way over the top on many different ingredients when perhaps it isn't necessary
Fair play, looks like a great straight forward mix.
Sometimes I think I go way over the top on many different ingredients when perhaps it isn't necessary
In reply to Post #108
BM1 is still the bassis of my current mixes
I still tweak it from time to time but never too far from the original as it has caught so many fix from every possible water you can think of both in the UK and Europe
CLO should be OK, a little more oily so remember that when adding liquids
As to the missing 2.5%....a good natural additive or two will help give out a little more attraction
BM1 is still the bassis of my current mixes
I still tweak it from time to time but never too far from the original as it has caught so many fix from every possible water you can think of both in the UK and Europe
CLO should be OK, a little more oily so remember that when adding liquids
As to the missing 2.5%....a good natural additive or two will help give out a little more attraction
In reply to Post #111
Leave well alone. The BM1 need nothing at all. Tweak at your peril!
That's why I was thinking more along the lines of upping the levels of one or two of the current ingredients instead of adding something new. If so, which ones?
If not, I quite fancy some robin red in there.
Leave well alone. The BM1 need nothing at all. Tweak at your peril!
That's why I was thinking more along the lines of upping the levels of one or two of the current ingredients instead of adding something new. If so, which ones?
If not, I quite fancy some robin red in there.
pre-dig or vitamealo
In reply to Post #118
sorry but post 117 was a mistake on my part there was nothing wrong with it at all
Maybe up the pre-digested, that's what I would do
persaonally i would leave the base mix well alone but if i was wanting to add extras to it i would take a kg of the standard recipe and then add my glm/liver powder/ robin red or what ever to it
sorry but post 117 was a mistake on my part there was nothing wrong with it at all
Maybe up the pre-digested, that's what I would do
persaonally i would leave the base mix well alone but if i was wanting to add extras to it i would take a kg of the standard recipe and then add my glm/liver powder/ robin red or what ever to it
In reply to Post #116
When i mess around with this mix later in the year one thing i want to try, is to use Selenavite E at 2% and use it along side Spray Dried Brewers Yeast or Kelp meal to make up the rest.
Maybe you could try that first. 
When i mess around with this mix later in the year one thing i want to try, is to use Selenavite E at 2% and use it along side Spray Dried Brewers Yeast or Kelp meal to make up the rest.
Maybe you could try that first.
In reply to Post #119
No worries, I was desperately trying to figure out what I had said wrong!
I would up the pre-digested or add 1% salt and somebetaine, maybe some chilli or garlic
No worries, I was desperately trying to figure out what I had said wrong!
I would up the pre-digested or add 1% salt and somebetaine, maybe some chilli or garlic