In reply to Post #589
Yes it's megagold 60.
Yes it's megagold 60.
In reply to Post #590
Thought so 👍
Got myself mixed up with Megablend and Megagold but got it now 👍
Putting together a cost spreadsheet for the BM1 mix to see the cost of buying the ingredients in 1kg bulk and then 5kg bulk to see what it brings the final cost per kilo fully mixed down to.
Appreciate the help, will post my findings soon and get your thoughts on it 😁
Thought so 👍
Got myself mixed up with Megablend and Megagold but got it now 👍
Putting together a cost spreadsheet for the BM1 mix to see the cost of buying the ingredients in 1kg bulk and then 5kg bulk to see what it brings the final cost per kilo fully mixed down to.
Appreciate the help, will post my findings soon and get your thoughts on it 😁
In reply to Post #591
Remember that 1kg of base mix makes about 1.4kg of finished bait when working out cost per kg
Remember that 1kg of base mix makes about 1.4kg of finished bait when working out cost per kg
In reply to Post #592
Ah yes, well reminded 👍 thank you
Ah yes, well reminded 👍 thank you
In reply to Post #592
I've put the below together based on buying everything (apart from Selenavite E) from AA Baits in both 1kg amounts or 5kg amounts.
With Selenavite E being the most expensive, if anyone knows a better place to get this cheaper?
If I've done my calculations correctly, then this is what I came out with:
1KG ingredients:

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5KG ingredients:

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Let me know your thoughts or if I've made any mistakes 👍👍
I've put the below together based on buying everything (apart from Selenavite E) from AA Baits in both 1kg amounts or 5kg amounts.
With Selenavite E being the most expensive, if anyone knows a better place to get this cheaper?
If I've done my calculations correctly, then this is what I came out with:
1KG ingredients:

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5KG ingredients:

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Let me know your thoughts or if I've made any mistakes 👍👍
In reply to Post #594
Looks about right apart from I would drop the Selenavite E to 10g/kg of dry mix...this will save a little and has very similar content as 5% of the old Equivite. One 500g tub will make 50kg of dry base mix
Just up the others a little to make up the reduced amount of vitamin powder to give you 100% total still
Edit to add remember that 1kg of basemix plus the eggs will make about 1.4kg of finished bait so divide your cost per kg at the end by 1.4 to get you the price per rolled kg.
Looks about right apart from I would drop the Selenavite E to 10g/kg of dry mix...this will save a little and has very similar content as 5% of the old Equivite. One 500g tub will make 50kg of dry base mix
Just up the others a little to make up the reduced amount of vitamin powder to give you 100% total still
Edit to add remember that 1kg of basemix plus the eggs will make about 1.4kg of finished bait so divide your cost per kg at the end by 1.4 to get you the price per rolled kg.
In reply to Post #595
Amazing, thank you very much!
I'll make those adjustments now 👍
Would Crunchy Kelp Meal make a suitable alternative to the Selenavite E to help reduce the overall cost?
Amazing, thank you very much!
I'll make those adjustments now 👍
Would Crunchy Kelp Meal make a suitable alternative to the Selenavite E to help reduce the overall cost?
In reply to Post #596
You could try the kelp meal instead of the Selenavite but they are not quite the same. I do like kelp meal and find it draws in the naturals....if it was me I would use both and 3-4% kelp with 1% selenavite
Maybe start off with just the kelp meal and see how you get on.
You could try the kelp meal instead of the Selenavite but they are not quite the same. I do like kelp meal and find it draws in the naturals....if it was me I would use both and 3-4% kelp with 1% selenavite
Maybe start off with just the kelp meal and see how you get on.
In reply to Post #597
Thanks 👍
Just found the Selenavite E at the local equine shop in 500g tubs so will stick with that 👍
Thanks 👍
Just found the Selenavite E at the local equine shop in 500g tubs so will stick with that 👍
Ken states this “ I have deliberately left the solubles a little on the low side so that you can add your own soluble attractors such as Betaine, MSG, liver powder etc without the bait falling to pieces in the water after 10 minutes!”
How much liver powder and Betaine would be recommended? Also do you need to reduce any other ingredients to include these, or just add them to the prescribed mix?
How much liver powder and Betaine would be recommended? Also do you need to reduce any other ingredients to include these, or just add them to the prescribed mix?
In reply to Post #600
If you have a look at this thread 5% seems to be a desirable inclusion rate for liver meal
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I guess betaine would depend on type of betaine, what are you using?
If you have a look at this thread 5% seems to be a desirable inclusion rate for liver meal
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I guess betaine would depend on type of betaine, what are you using?
In reply to Post #601
I'm not using anything, hence the query.
I've only been rolling bait for the last couple of seasons, I was fortunate to have an amazing bait for over two decades, until the lad retired.
I've been using the Tropamino from BAF, but with their trade only, I'm looking to try the BM1.
I'm not using anything, hence the query.
I've only been rolling bait for the last couple of seasons, I was fortunate to have an amazing bait for over two decades, until the lad retired.
I've been using the Tropamino from BAF, but with their trade only, I'm looking to try the BM1.
In reply to Post #600
Liver powder start with 5%, betaine go with what the suppliers recommend.
Liver powder start with 5%, betaine go with what the suppliers recommend.
In reply to Post #603
Many thanks mate, most appreciated.
Many thanks mate, most appreciated.
I've been reading through the full thread about this mix and used that as a base to make my own version. I've added a few extra ingredients for attraction, but I'm wondering if it's all getting a bit too much or if it still makes sense nutritionally and practically.
Here's the version I currently have:
• LT94 fishmeal – 25.5% (255 g)
• Maize Protein Meal (60%) – 15% (150 g)
• Egg based bird food – 13% (130 g)
• Semolina – 10% (100 g)
• Heat-treated soya flour – 10% (100 g)
• Pre-digested fishmeal – 8% (80 g)
• Calf/Lamb's milk powder – 8% (80 g)
• Selenevite – 1% (10 g)
• Brocacel – 3% (30 g)
• Kelp meal – 3% (30 g)
• MSG (Monosodium Glutamate) – 0.5% (5 g)
• GLM full fat (Green Lipped Mussel) – 2% (20 g)
• Betaine – 1% (10 g)
Do you think this is a good balance overall, or am I overdoing it with some of these attractors or supplements?
Any feedback or suggestions for fine-tuning would be really appreciated.
Kind regards,
Ben
Here's the version I currently have:
• LT94 fishmeal – 25.5% (255 g)
• Maize Protein Meal (60%) – 15% (150 g)
• Egg based bird food – 13% (130 g)
• Semolina – 10% (100 g)
• Heat-treated soya flour – 10% (100 g)
• Pre-digested fishmeal – 8% (80 g)
• Calf/Lamb's milk powder – 8% (80 g)
• Selenevite – 1% (10 g)
• Brocacel – 3% (30 g)
• Kelp meal – 3% (30 g)
• MSG (Monosodium Glutamate) – 0.5% (5 g)
• GLM full fat (Green Lipped Mussel) – 2% (20 g)
• Betaine – 1% (10 g)
Do you think this is a good balance overall, or am I overdoing it with some of these attractors or supplements?
Any feedback or suggestions for fine-tuning would be really appreciated.
Kind regards,
Ben