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Deanmo
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   Old Thread  #512 11 Apr 2022 at 9.19pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #509
Yeah it definitely comes across as an old school bait and does have the same sort of smell as the smokey mackerel and I like the fact its high in hydro's as this is something I used to do when I made my own and will be definitely putting in an order soon
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #511 11 Apr 2022 at 9.15pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #509
A few questions.
Can bait be collected from your premises and if so what's the address.
What do you feel if the freezer life of a quality food bait like herb before it looses some attraction.
Do hard hook bait have a different profile to the feed baits. Reason I ask this is a mate makes a very high quality food bait that I use fresh and don't keep it frozen for more than six weeks which isn't a problem as he is local and I could always get more at short notice but now he is rolling for a lot more people it's not so easy, this bait also breaks down fairly quickly and only stays on the hair for four to five hours but the hard hook baits will stay on for twelve so wonder if the fish can tetect a difference.
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #510 11 Apr 2022 at 9.07pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #507
Ask our mutual friend about his ribbon blender mate, that might suit?
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #509 11 Apr 2022 at 8.04pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #508
I don’t remember the elite baits Smokey Mack but perhaps they were similar. As I said before, it was never designed to be or smell like anything else. We had several versions under test but this one was by far the best and also liked the most by the anglers involved. Marc cav was heavily involved with early tests and I don’t think I will ever be able to give him another bait again!! We had a fish version, a curry type version and even a fruit but they just didn’t seem to hit the mark like this one! This blend of flavours and heavy hydros is almost definitely unique (that I know of) and I just hope that they all stay available.
Deanmo
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   Old Thread  #508 11 Apr 2022 at 7.52pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #506
I recieved some samples and yeah it definitely has the same aroma to them as the smokey mackerel by elite baits and once I clear a bit of space in the bait freezer I will defo be putting in an order
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #507 11 Apr 2022 at 7.33pm  1  Login    Register
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I was going to tell everyone exactly what was in the herb recipe in the very beginning. But I have had a few things blatantly copied before and it’s really put me off the complete listing of ingredients now. I’m not secretive in any way shape or form normally but the herb is different and it will shape my future so I have sort of kept a few things close to my chest. The flavours are all from our past and the reason that many of you know it is because you may well have sniffed some of them before.
Today I was told by one of the greatest anglers that has fished in the U.K. that the herb is something very special and it’s a message that comes in daily now.
It’s about as old skool as you can imagine but with a few modern twists! I literally can’t produce enough of it and I really need to upsize this year.
CV-Deano
Posts: 346
   Old Thread  #506 11 Apr 2022 at 2.44pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #504
What flavours go into the herb if you don’t me asking? Any further info on its overall make up that isn’t on the website? To me at least it has a simialr aroma to the elite baits Smokey mackerel I used about 20 years ago.
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #505 11 Apr 2022 at 12.20pm  0  Login    Register
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I think it’s the similar spice / fish combo…….same as the source which has a similar smell IMO…..
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #504 10 Apr 2022 at 7.08pm  3  Login    Register
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Yep that sting is certainly one to fall back on. Lots of captures on that pop up this weekend. I always remember one winter when I caught a crazy amount of 30 pound carp from 2 different waters and the sting always got me the bites! We have a new batch drying right now and many orders to get out this week.
The Herb and nash sting boilies…… many people seem to think that the herb is a similar bait to the sting spicy fishmeal from the 90s. I can assure you I never designed it to mimic anything at all, I just chose some old ingredients, some new ones, some spices and some old flavours that are still around today. The sting I used personally in the 90s was brown, and had a beautiful meat, liver, fenugreek, curry type smell. But my god did we haul on it!!
Sting essential oil in our pop ups is a very unique and nice smell, tastes awful but smells mega!! A favourite of many many anglers now
CV-Deano
Posts: 346
   Old Thread  #503 10 Apr 2022 at 4.10pm  0  Login    Register
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I’m now well and truly sold on the sting for colder months. Gone are the times I carry a bait bucket full of pop ups around with me. I’ve fished 3 waters mainly days all through the winter and I’m yet to blank, nothing massive, fish to low 20’s but others around me have often struggled, all fish on the sting and it’s been the most enjoyable winters fishing in a long time.

Btw I don’t get the similarities with the herb at all.
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #502 10 Apr 2022 at 9.16am  0  Login    Register
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😂😂😂 the herb/sting combo
It’s amazing how people think that the herb is very similar to sting (it’s not how I remember sting) but let’s be honest that was one of the best nash produced
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #501 8 Apr 2022 at 9.00pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #500
Gav, call me when you release the Herbing…….
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #500 4 Apr 2022 at 6.17pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #499
Today……phew I’m glad it’s over!
Herb…….it has such a cult following now and grows everyday. So glad you like it mate and I know it’s a special one judging by what I see and hear. When I started handcraft I was worried that some of our ideas and inventions would never come to light but clearly they are the ones that people love. I don’t know how many sting, squid or herb products went out of the door today but it was a lot! Always a good sign when you catch carp on a matching hookbaits wether it’s a hard hooker or Wafters etc!
Now it’s time for some dinner and a well earned pint!!
carpstar40
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carpstar40
   Old Thread  #499 4 Apr 2022 at 8.38am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #495
Had two at the weekend just gone in the cold northerlies, Herb hard hooker with Dark sting pop-up fished on a snowman just keeps them coming for me, cast with either a Herb five bait stringer or five crushed in a PVA mesh bag, quick dip in the Herb Primer and voila, DEEP-C in brown sounds the one.

braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #498 3 Apr 2022 at 7.54pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #497
Will be an order for the new pop ups from me and Phil very soon
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