In reply to Post #443
Excellent thanks. I'm assuming Vitamelo is used to keep the cost down but WPC would be the preference if cost was not an issue?
Excellent thanks. I'm assuming Vitamelo is used to keep the cost down but WPC would be the preference if cost was not an issue?
In reply to Post #444
Yes it is cheaper, however the vitamealo/milk replacer offers binding and skinning properties, a creamy taste, some fats and a good oil content with some vitamins and minerals.
Yes it is cheaper, however the vitamealo/milk replacer offers binding and skinning properties, a creamy taste, some fats and a good oil content with some vitamins and minerals.
In reply to Post #77
excellent thread! Looking forward to having a play with this.
Thanks to everyone contributing!
excellent thread! Looking forward to having a play with this.
Thanks to everyone contributing!
In reply to Post #446
I'm hopefully going to have a bit more time this year for bait making, so am going to give the BM1 a go again as I had good results when I last used it. Is anyone else still using it?
I'm hopefully going to have a bit more time this year for bait making, so am going to give the BM1 a go again as I had good results when I last used it. Is anyone else still using it?
In reply to Post #447
I still use a version of it, had some great sessions using it last year and will be using it again this year
I still use a version of it, had some great sessions using it last year and will be using it again this year
In reply to Post #448
Ha ha, I had a feeling you might still be using it Pete
Ha ha, I had a feeling you might still be using it Pete
In reply to Post #449
If it ain't broke then why fix it ;-)
If it ain't broke then why fix it ;-)
Well I've just made a batch of BM1 and this time used CLO instead of Meggablend and all the stickiness problems I had last time had gone. In fact it rolled like a dream once I'd sorted out my liquid to basemix ratio. Whether it was just the change to CLO that made the difference I'm not sure as i got all my ingredients from a different source this time.
Just thought I'd mention it though as a few people were saying how sticky the mix was.
Just thought I'd mention it though as a few people were saying how sticky the mix was.
I'm thinking of trying the BM1 mix. I've never done it before and never even heard of half the ingredients. Are we able to use this mix in winter time? Also do we just add our own flavourings to the mix?
In reply to Post #452
Its an all year round mix IMO, and yes you can add any flavour you like to it if you wanted to put one in. I liked it when i used it on a lake with strawberry flavour believe it or not. I used other flavours in it depending on which lake i rolled it for, but it seemed to take fruit or savory flavours really well.
Its an all year round mix IMO, and yes you can add any flavour you like to it if you wanted to put one in. I liked it when i used it on a lake with strawberry flavour believe it or not. I used other flavours in it depending on which lake i rolled it for, but it seemed to take fruit or savory flavours really well.
In reply to Post #453
Thanks for the info bud. Does the BM1 Mix smell of anything if no flavouring is added? I'm assuming it's going to smell fishy because of the fish meal base?
Thanks for the info bud. Does the BM1 Mix smell of anything if no flavouring is added? I'm assuming it's going to smell fishy because of the fish meal base?
In reply to Post #454
I've used it with nothing but salmon oil and L030 and it's worked a treat, also used Squid and Octopus/Esterblend 12, also worked a treat. Basically just add any flavour you feel confident with. The basemix is quite distinct without adding anything and you have to add quite a bit of flavour to notice it really. I tend to add a small amount to the mixes then make some special hookbaits with more flavour and then put them in pots with a bit of glug.
I've used it with nothing but salmon oil and L030 and it's worked a treat, also used Squid and Octopus/Esterblend 12, also worked a treat. Basically just add any flavour you feel confident with. The basemix is quite distinct without adding anything and you have to add quite a bit of flavour to notice it really. I tend to add a small amount to the mixes then make some special hookbaits with more flavour and then put them in pots with a bit of glug.
In reply to Post #455
Great thanks you! I'm going to give these a go as my first attempt, now I'm going to order all the ingredients
Great thanks you! I'm going to give these a go as my first attempt, now I'm going to order all the ingredients
In reply to Post #454
Yeah, it smells quite fishy even with no flavour in it. 1ml per kilo of John Bakers crab flavour can really help improve this naturally built in smell if you wanted a fishy bait.
JB crab is expensive to buy, but at 1ml/kg it goes a long way, making up to 100kg for the price.
Yeah, it smells quite fishy even with no flavour in it. 1ml per kilo of John Bakers crab flavour can really help improve this naturally built in smell if you wanted a fishy bait.
JB crab is expensive to buy, but at 1ml/kg it goes a long way, making up to 100kg for the price.
In reply to Post #77
To answer a couple of questions this mix can be used all year without any worries, many have done and still do and it has stood the test of time
I have used it as a basis for many baits including sweet, savory, meaty and fishy 'flavours'.....but not all at once
I only fish a few hours a year now, work, family and other hobbies get in the way. Last year I managed about 3 or 4 nights and that was twice as many as the year before! However every now and then I get the bait books out, scratch my head and come up with a new mix (I say new but they are always a tweak of an existing mix). If you take BM1 and tweak it then you may end up with this.
20% LT94
20% Vanilla Extract Meal
17.8% Megablend
8% Crunchy Kelp Meal
8% Pre-digested fishmeal
10% Semolina
4% Supergold 60
4% Blood plasma
4% Hydrolysied Poultry Protein
2% Spirulina
1% Selenavite E
1% Betaine
0.3% (yes 0.3%!) Candy Sweet
per 10 eggs, 50ml CSL and 5ml Karpi
This mix has out-fished any other bait I have tried it against on various waters from club to day ticket to private lakes. Unfortunately the Poultry protein is no longer available and I have run out of Karpi and I am not about to order another production batch at crica £100 a go....so that's the end of that mix
Later this year I might see what i can do to the above mix and take it to the next level, but it was so good I am not sure it will be easy to tweak it again
To answer a couple of questions this mix can be used all year without any worries, many have done and still do and it has stood the test of time
I have used it as a basis for many baits including sweet, savory, meaty and fishy 'flavours'.....but not all at once
I only fish a few hours a year now, work, family and other hobbies get in the way. Last year I managed about 3 or 4 nights and that was twice as many as the year before! However every now and then I get the bait books out, scratch my head and come up with a new mix (I say new but they are always a tweak of an existing mix). If you take BM1 and tweak it then you may end up with this.
20% LT94
20% Vanilla Extract Meal
17.8% Megablend
8% Crunchy Kelp Meal
8% Pre-digested fishmeal
10% Semolina
4% Supergold 60
4% Blood plasma
4% Hydrolysied Poultry Protein
2% Spirulina
1% Selenavite E
1% Betaine
0.3% (yes 0.3%!) Candy Sweet
per 10 eggs, 50ml CSL and 5ml Karpi
This mix has out-fished any other bait I have tried it against on various waters from club to day ticket to private lakes. Unfortunately the Poultry protein is no longer available and I have run out of Karpi and I am not about to order another production batch at crica £100 a go....so that's the end of that mix
Later this year I might see what i can do to the above mix and take it to the next level, but it was so good I am not sure it will be easy to tweak it again