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oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #1477 4 Dec 2020 at 7.36pm  0  Login    Register
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ARTHUR VS YARDE
I reckon should be a great match looking forward to that one tomorrow night
a dangerous fight for Yarde
jeffire
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   Old Thread  #1476 4 Dec 2020 at 7.23pm  0  Login    Register
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Yes i know martin quite well , lived 8 miles away from each other until last year , cant say he is my favourite person but i would love to see him win , a very very difficult task but you never know .
oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #1475 4 Dec 2020 at 7.00pm  0  Login    Register
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Martin Murray has everything to gain and nothing to lose sadly he has always fallen short at his biggest fights cant see it being any different

OH but I would love to see an upset
scozza
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   Old Thread  #1474 4 Dec 2020 at 6.42pm  0  Login    Register
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Should be a decent fight that, hopefully
jeffire
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   Old Thread  #1473 4 Dec 2020 at 4.08pm  0  Login    Register
Boxing tonight sky sport main ev 8pm
Saunders v murray ,
tazi
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   Old Thread  #1472 1 Dec 2020 at 6.23pm  0  Login    Register
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scozza
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   Old Thread  #1471 30 Nov 2020 at 9.29pm  0  Login    Register
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Its an interesting one of, what happens next?

Joshua and Pulev soon, see what happens there?

I would like to see Joyce vs. Usyk. Both will be different fighters now, Joyce jab has improved and his guard is by his chin, not near his elbow like their first fight lol. Usyk, great boxer, great movement and sharp, you have to fancy him i suppose, still, it will be the full 12 rounds not an Olympic 5 round punch fest
tazi
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   Old Thread  #1470 30 Nov 2020 at 8.13pm  0  Login    Register
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I can’t see him stepping in the ring either with Wilder especially if he’s ever in line for a shot at AJ. If not then I guess he’s got to go up against Wilder to enhance any further prospects.

I believe Usyk beats Joyce.

Obviously not had the amount of fights as opposed to those who are supposedly thought of as better.

Time will tell.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #1469 30 Nov 2020 at 2.22pm  0  Login    Register
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I can’t see Usyk wanting to step in the ring with Wilder

If that happens I would be extremely surprised

I don’t think anybody who is up there would want Wilder if the truth be know, extremely dangerous fight for anybody, even Fury!

I think Joyce is Joyce, you see what you get now, a rematch with Usyk will be very interesting, I hope it happens, Joyce seems to want it?

Regarding Usyk, great boxer no doubt but a test for any boxer is a lot of fights against quality opponents with different styles. He will never be that man for me, he is 33, unless he is doing 3 fights a year up to 40 loI, agree though, has a chance of a title, time will tell how he progresses

Lets not forget Lomachenko another one of the purists and pundits favourite, struggled against Salido at the end of his career and got a proper boxing lesson the last time out against Lopez, wonder what the purists think of him now, Lopez was superb!

Simply has not had all the fights like the real top guys for me

How can you claim to be the man when you are say15 and 0 when there are men out there who have done 30, 40, 50 and 60 plus professional fights with minimum loses or draws, completely different level and should not be discussed in the same breath for me, respect to them

In this era he has a chance to shine. Time will tell if he goes down as one of the greats. Me personally, I don’t think he will, if I’m wrong I will have enjoyed the show
tazi
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   Old Thread  #1468 30 Nov 2020 at 12.30pm  0  Login    Register
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Agree regards Fury.

Regards Wilder a punchers chance ‘mind you though so have most if they connect properly’. However in my mind Usyk picks off Wilder as Wilder doesn’t have that movement etc in his armoury.

As for Joyce that whilst he did a number on Dubois - Dubois showed very little/no defensive skills I wouldn’t exactly say he was great. I learned more about Dubois than Joyce. He did a number on him, fair do’s and you can’t ask for anything more from him in terms of doing his job.

All I see is an heavyweight division where Fury if given the chance would clean up all of the titles, but because of how it is then Usyk entitles merit in believing he can become a champion and I believe he will.

Regards your last sentence that whilst he’s 33 and his strength is his fitness he doesn’t need to be a 40 plus fight real hall of famer - just a champion by taking one of those belts that are available, but should he go on to be undisputed champion then all the better for him.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #1467 30 Nov 2020 at 7.31am  0  Login    Register
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The fights will get harder. For me

Fury, no chance, jab job and powered out
Wilder, no chance, gets sparked, bomb!
Joshua, possibly, very dangerous fight for him
Whyte, possibly, very dangerous fight for him
Joyce, same as, he will be extremely confident going forward of doing a jab job on him now

Your right though, he has fought at heavy and took a few off DC. Time will tell if he is the real deal

To be fair though, I can see why he fancy’s it, the pathway is there to be a heavyweight world champion, Joshua. Now he has been exposed I don’t think any decent heavyweight would fear him

I will go back to what I said before, who is the biggest name on his record to date, Bellew who took the vacant belt, fought Flores and a WELL over the hill David Haye twice, a well passed his best DC trying to slug him out of there?

When he is the man he will get the respect he deserves for me

He has to get there first, and then hold onto it, then we will know if he is the real deal that everybody is buffing him up to be.

18 fights and zero losses, against who, Bellew and DC at the end of their careers so far...

He is also 33 years old and his strength is his fitness, is he really going to be a 40 plus fight real hall of famer, I don’t think so

tazi
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   Old Thread  #1466 29 Nov 2020 at 6.55pm  0  Login    Register
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No disagreement there and agree that DC is well past his best. However, if anything Usyk came out of that fight knowing he stood up to some punches and whilst you don’t want to get hit for me he overcame them and it’ll give him confidence to go forward in this division.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #1465 29 Nov 2020 at 1.26pm  0  Login    Register
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I think if we put the cards on the table DC is well passed his best. Respect to him, great entertainer and fighter in his time

When somebody puts the pressure on Usyk and starts to land regular then we will see how really good he is

Looking at Styles, I fancy him against Joshua but if Joshua keeps the discipline he could easily spark Usyk for me. You can have all the skill and movement in world but you have to get into the positions to land punches to win fights, to do that you have to put yourself in the zone and take some at times

tazi
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   Old Thread  #1464 29 Nov 2020 at 1.17pm  0  Login    Register
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Can’t disagree with any of that but he did get tagged by Chisora and I thought he took it well. That’s surely the positive he took from that fight.
tazi
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   Old Thread  #1463 29 Nov 2020 at 1.15pm  0  Login    Register
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