Hi guys
Im going to give the german a go this season when i can eventually go fishing. Going to tie a few up and i have a few questions to ask people who have had lots of experience using it:
- can you use it with a soft coated braid or is better to use with stiffer coated braids? Reason i ask is i do prefer a softer coated hooklink but do also use stiffer ones.
- do you use anti-tangle sleeve on lead clip set up or tie it direct to the ring swivel to aid movement?
Many thanks
Im going to give the german a go this season when i can eventually go fishing. Going to tie a few up and i have a few questions to ask people who have had lots of experience using it:
- can you use it with a soft coated braid or is better to use with stiffer coated braids? Reason i ask is i do prefer a softer coated hooklink but do also use stiffer ones.
- do you use anti-tangle sleeve on lead clip set up or tie it direct to the ring swivel to aid movement?
Many thanks
In reply to Post #1
Personally I use a semi stiff braid, esp tungsten loaded and use a small anti tangle sleeve to add the re setting.
Personally I use a semi stiff braid, esp tungsten loaded and use a small anti tangle sleeve to add the re setting.
In reply to Post #1
Started using this for the start on this year on a water with a total braid ban, used ghost soft. It worked well enough. Prefer combi rig with a soft braid section but needs, must.
Started using this for the start on this year on a water with a total braid ban, used ghost soft. It worked well enough. Prefer combi rig with a soft braid section but needs, must.
In reply to Post #1
Soft to semi stiff work well, no stiffer
Ive always found movement key with it. I either tie it to a ring swivel or use a qc clip with a slither of silicone to keep it secure
My tips for you are, use a big hook, size 4 or 2 curve shank (i use a mugga) and put a big dollop of putty between an inch and 2 inches from the hook
Soft to semi stiff work well, no stiffer
Ive always found movement key with it. I either tie it to a ring swivel or use a qc clip with a slither of silicone to keep it secure
My tips for you are, use a big hook, size 4 or 2 curve shank (i use a mugga) and put a big dollop of putty between an inch and 2 inches from the hook
In reply to Post #4
Yes i use Muggas all the time so they are my hook of choice. I just worry with an anti tangle sleeve it restricts movement so tying it to the ring surely helps the hook move and turn
Yes i use Muggas all the time so they are my hook of choice. I just worry with an anti tangle sleeve it restricts movement so tying it to the ring surely helps the hook move and turn
In reply to Post #5
I use an anti tangle sleeve and have never had an issue.I use wafters and have a tungsten sinker not too far from the eye of the hook,the sinker seems to pull the hook down into the fishes bottom lip as it picks up the bait
I use an anti tangle sleeve and have never had an issue.I use wafters and have a tungsten sinker not too far from the eye of the hook,the sinker seems to pull the hook down into the fishes bottom lip as it picks up the bait
I normally tie my German Rigs with ESP Tungsten Semi Stiff. I find this to work for me. I have also used Korda IQ2 and found this to be just as effective!
With regards to an anti tangle sleeve, I can't say it has ever caused me any problems! I would use it on any other standard Lead Clip Presentations so why would it be any different for a German Rig?
Something I also like to do is use a small piece of shrink tube just to cover the eye of the hook and help to keep the aggressive angle of the braid on the exit of the hook.
It is a brilliant rig and I have 100% confidence in it
With regards to an anti tangle sleeve, I can't say it has ever caused me any problems! I would use it on any other standard Lead Clip Presentations so why would it be any different for a German Rig?
Something I also like to do is use a small piece of shrink tube just to cover the eye of the hook and help to keep the aggressive angle of the braid on the exit of the hook.
It is a brilliant rig and I have 100% confidence in it
In reply to Post #7
The reason i worry about the anti tangle sleeve is because there is no breaking in the coating so was just wondering if the sleeve would hinder movement of the rig and prevent hook turning. With traditional combi rigs you have the supple bit at the end so the anti tangle sleeve doesnt affect the hook catchimg hold. Tying it to the ring gives more movement than the anti tagle sleeve and i normaly tie rigs direct to ring swivel for this reason. That is my thinking but alot of people say it doesnt seem to affect rig mechanics so will give it a go.
The reason i worry about the anti tangle sleeve is because there is no breaking in the coating so was just wondering if the sleeve would hinder movement of the rig and prevent hook turning. With traditional combi rigs you have the supple bit at the end so the anti tangle sleeve doesnt affect the hook catchimg hold. Tying it to the ring gives more movement than the anti tagle sleeve and i normaly tie rigs direct to ring swivel for this reason. That is my thinking but alot of people say it doesnt seem to affect rig mechanics so will give it a go.
In reply to Post #8
I would think more about the movement at the hook end than I would the end simply connecting the rig to the mainline.
I purely use anti-tangle sleeves to do exactly that and stop the rig wrapping itself back round the mainline upon casting. It has no bearing in my opinion on hooking properties and is only there to ensure the rig is presented properly
I would think more about the movement at the hook end than I would the end simply connecting the rig to the mainline.
I purely use anti-tangle sleeves to do exactly that and stop the rig wrapping itself back round the mainline upon casting. It has no bearing in my opinion on hooking properties and is only there to ensure the rig is presented properly
In reply to Post #9
The reason they're talking about the extra movement and not using an anti tangle sleeve because of the stiffness of the material all the way through to the hook - for the hook to rotate the entire hooklink needs to rotate too, whereas with a combi rig you have the uncoated braid part to help the hook rotate.
The reason they're talking about the extra movement and not using an anti tangle sleeve because of the stiffness of the material all the way through to the hook - for the hook to rotate the entire hooklink needs to rotate too, whereas with a combi rig you have the uncoated braid part to help the hook rotate.
In reply to Post #10
Exactly a ring gives more movement to the whole hooklink than an anti tangle sleeve and because there is no break in the coating surely it will aid the mechanics of the rig. I use d rigs alot and always use a big figure of 8 loop at the lead end to allow the rig to move freely due to the stiff materials used to make the d rig. Alot of people do use it with an anti tangle sleeve and do well so who knows.
Exactly a ring gives more movement to the whole hooklink than an anti tangle sleeve and because there is no break in the coating surely it will aid the mechanics of the rig. I use d rigs alot and always use a big figure of 8 loop at the lead end to allow the rig to move freely due to the stiff materials used to make the d rig. Alot of people do use it with an anti tangle sleeve and do well so who knows.
In reply to Post #11
Its also the reason people started using the rig turbo style to aid movement at the hookend due to the stiffness of the rig and anti tangle sleeve
Its also the reason people started using the rig turbo style to aid movement at the hookend due to the stiffness of the rig and anti tangle sleeve
In reply to Post #11
You've still got movement with an anti tangle sleeve but it relies on the swivel working properly, and sitting at the right angle. as you say - people use it with an anti tangle sleeve and catch - but I wonder how many takes don't convert with the lack of ability to rotate.
You've still got movement with an anti tangle sleeve but it relies on the swivel working properly, and sitting at the right angle. as you say - people use it with an anti tangle sleeve and catch - but I wonder how many takes don't convert with the lack of ability to rotate.
In reply to Post #13
Yeh thats my thinking. Surely it would be more effective tying it direct to the ring swivel direct rather than a quick change system and anti tangle sleeve
Yeh thats my thinking. Surely it would be more effective tying it direct to the ring swivel direct rather than a quick change system and anti tangle sleeve
I understand what your saying about movement and how it would help the rig mechanics but I wouldn't worry . I go straight to a quick change link and use a large anti tangle sleeve and large 2” figure of eight to connect it , which in turn with the anti tangle makes a rather large boom , the rig doesn't look very flexible but it just works really well