In reply to Post #578
Beetroot powder for redness. Pretty darn powerful and natural

In reply to Post #13
I would agree with the red malarkey from what I've seen. Which is interesting because given that they MUST have night vision, it's questionable as to whether they can actually see in colour at all. However I'm getting quite a few tench in a predominantly carp venue on DT Green Beast. Epic bait all around it is

So WPC80, egg albumen and blood plasma are all hardening products, saying anything from 5-10% of the mix. Praps 5% of each making 15% total in hardeners would be an idea? Still using fresh eggs of course

In reply to Post #9
Yeh I've already had many batches from Fenton, they're good enough baits for sure, but he won't sell much less than you can get bulk on the site itself. I just wanna make my own designs, I'm sure I'll get bored of it in no time and buy DT again

In reply to Post #5
No it's one from abroad, even after postage still costs a 3rd the price of UK rip off groundbaits. ProEliteBaits and it consists of haiths Robin red, corn, wheat, carob, hemp, bakery products, cereal byproducts, pepper, red beef extract, sugar, veg oil, colourants and zoo technical aromas whatever the hell that is lol.

So yeh some of that sounds a bit snythetic but it smells fish mealy not all lovely like UK groundbaits. I won't use that any more now I'll use beetroot powder and add egg white and hope for improvements.

Still curious what commercials protocols are. I actually know and live 2 miles away from the owner of DT baits but don't know him well enough to ask for secrets 🥴

In reply to Post #5
Possibly but I also then tried a 50/50 semolina and almond meal mix, same turn out...even softer in fact.

Hi, new here and I've been experimenting making my own boilies for the first time.
I want to make a vibrant red example without using any synthetic ingredients whatsoever. So that means no food dyes. Any red boilie video I can find on yt consists of synthetic food colouring.

So in my first attempts I've encountered numerous problems. First of all they turn out far too soft to use on the hook. Using a John Baker fish meal and Robin red groundbait mix and fresh eggs, I boiled the first batch for 2 whole minutes and air dried around 12hrs and they were too soft to last much longer than an hour on the hook.

Secondly they wash out mega fast, so any reasonable red colour I got from additives like beetroot powder, paprika etc soon washed out.

So I'm really curious to know how commercial companies do it. Most of them are all decently firm boilies with strong colouring and scent, I'm wondering if maybe they're adding stuff post boil? Maybe they dunk in a glaze and then blow dry using hot air?

I tried another mix taking the yolks out. Reading that egg white powder is a good hardener and not having any yet, I figured just using egg whites would help harden....it didn't 🥴

So I was thinking maybe using liquids like beetroot juice and blended raspberries and then substituting eggs totally for whey gel, albumen etc might be the way to go?

Whatever the case, how the hell do Mainline, DT etc do theirs in general?

Tia