In reply to Post #18
Interesting, everytime I use an LS on a multi, I either have a hookpull or a poor hook hold. I much prefer an out turned eye and beaked point, although I have had a few decent fish on curve shanks with the multi but far more on the out turned eyes.

In reply to Post #131
when will anglers see whats going on PAG has just 8000 likes on Facebook, there must be at least 1 million carp anglers in the UK

Some decent recipes being posted whilst fishmeals/meat meals/maize proteins look the business on paper you should never overlook the usage of quality milk protein fractions. Without going into too much detail about these ingredients I can whole heartedly say that after making baits without them I wouldnt really do so any time soon. For sure you can make extremely effective baits without using expensive milk fractions but on the whole after careful deliberation I am wholly of the the belief that they must play a part in good food bait.

The main consideration for me is that refined milk proteins do not lie, if it says its 95% protein then it is what it says there is no indigestible or useless nitrogen in them as there is in fishmeals etc. They are certainly not essential to catch fish but the benefits surely outweigh the cost as was intimated to me a few years ago by someone who clearly knew more than me at the time. I have used baits with and without and caught very well on both but without giving the game away too much I would urge people to include at least some whey protein in their formula ideally a combination of milks as it will only benefit your bait overall. Although you can still construct a good food bait without having to pay more than £3 per kilo for any one ingredient.

In reply to Post #811
I did not know about this thread, crikey its brilliant, very good work Pete this is going to take some reading