In reply to Post #49
Make it about 960 mm ish so 38 inches over the width.

In reply to Post #47
Mine landed today and although obviously not tested it yet, I am very impressed with how well it is made. As near as the original tails up bag as your get but even better design of the top layer, twin zips and bed hair attachment.

Just the right size around my mid and I'm a 15 stone, 47 inch chest...plenty of room for you 6 footers plus, I'm only 5'10" so loads for me.

In reply to Post #46
Plenty wide enough!!!

I think also a major part of the price tag which we are not considering is maybe the collaboration thing........ two companies = x2 mark up......I am not saying it doesn't still cost a fortune to manufacture, just if you got 20% profit x 2 it would put quite a bit on the final bill

In reply to Post #34
Mate in my opinion, there are only a handful of bags of the market which i would choose today, and nothing to do with origin etc!!!

Either fleece (personally hate fleece), too bulky (poor insulation material) or rubbish design/ mummy bag.

I tried Mummy bags and hated it, fleece bags and hated it, fox/ trakker so say reversible bags with no fleece? Only to be faced with a rubbish non cotton type material, and there massive!!!

Pertex like the Goliath or Sunridge heat control were by far the most comfortable bags I used. I could curl up in one of them in the sort of weather we are having now and feel like I was fishing in the great outdoors and it didn't matter how cold or wet it got I was warm and comfortable and "safe".
"Safe" means to me if it gets splashed or condensation on it, it will wick away, if I fell in I could strip off and jump in my bag etc etc...I'm not saying for one minute the other bags wont do this....but I would bet with the exclusion of a handful the Snugpak would perform better.

Skimp on a sleeping bag....not worth it, I like sleeping outdoors.......skimp on a bivvy?? no real difference in bivvies nower days, there all made equally as craply!!!just price!!!!!

Give me a UK, Irish or European divvy manufacture like the old Aqua.....then we would have a debate!


And, If you wanted an example of bad sleeping bag design what about Nash draft liner for the sleep system......the Carptech Goliath (which I know you bought into)

Personally I think the option of having a product like this again in this trade shows there is a market for it.

Incidentally in my original post I never mentioned the UK is best argument? only Snugpak

In reply to Post #31
Cheers

I am in no way connected to Snugpak or any angling trade!!!

In reply to Post #23
Quote: I don't buy into this myth peddled by a few that only the likes of Snugpak, or only UK companies can make reliable, quality products. Its utter tosh in a lot of cases and just an excuse to charge a premium.



Surely Snugpak's long experience of making quality sleeping bags for military and the mountaineering trade speak for themselves...........years of perfecting the softie insulation and the pertex layer all made in house in Sheffield. The difference with this is all made in house is they are in control of their own quality control and manufacturing, as they are the actually the manufacturer not the middle man!!

How many Nash, Aqua, Trakker etc (Chinese manufactured products) have had a high volume of returns??? 10 percent one Rep from one of these companies claimed all built into the price! How many times have products produced in the far east turned out to be recalled or just duff due to them having issues with the bell caps leaking or poles too long for the fabric at the front or poles snapping???
Not their fault....its just their badge on the product, they don't actually make it!!

You obviously have never bought a product with a problem, either that or you haven't kept it long enough for any faults to show in the first place.

I think you will find the reason there is a premium price in this product and Uk products are the price for manufacturing in the UK are massive........Wages, rates, Insurances etc etc...I think you'll find most working people here in the UK would rather earn a fair wage while at work and not a sweat shop to keep the product costs down and also choose to spend their money here in the UK to put something back into the system??

Although I am far from being in favour of the BMP!!! my reasons are simple as above.....quality and experience in the field to be able manufacture the product, and it's made here in the UK....that doesn't mean its rip off Briton, it means that is how much it costs to produce the product.


Quote:
I dont remember ever changing a sleeping bag because its faulty ... ive only had a handful of fishing style sleeping bags over the years ranging from the cheap and cheerful to, at the time top of range Trakker Armotexx . None have ever been changed because they were faulty, only changed for changes sake.


Well you never had a sundridge heat control for years, which was a great bag but the filling slowly compacted after too many washes so went as did my Goliath both after many years of use....(goliath second hand).

Again I will think with my feet for the obvious reasons above......I have placed my order and eagerly await its arrival.......its obviously not for you for reasons you state being too expensive/ UK made. You as well with think with your feet!

In reply to Post #21
I'm going to buy one just because if there anything like the quality of the snug pac range they will last for years!
If the quality is there the price maybe justified.

They start at £229.99 not £250 as stated on here (green version, camo £250)

Add up all the money you've spent every year on new shelters, rods etc and ask yourself , do I need to buy all that gear every year???

Buy once and pay once!