In reply to Post #1433
Fermenting your freezer baits at home.
What I am going to share with you today, is such a simple thing to do when making your own freezer bait at home. You do not need to buy any expensive additives, you do not need to change your favourite boilie recipe. With just one extra ingredient, time, you are going to immeasurably improve the bait that you make. In the photograph, there are two S2 crushed cork pop ups, side by side. One, is slightly darker than the other. The darker one, also smells slightly different to the human nose. Despite being made with identical ingredients, identical base mix and liquids, all from exactly the same batch... One of them, is slightly darker than the other. The darker hook bait itself, has an almost olive smelling twang to it. If you tasted the two pastes before they were rolled, the darker one has a much richer and more intense taste to it. But they were made with identical ingredients. The darker one, is in fact, far more effective... It will actually catch you more carp, than the lighter one will. The lighter one, has been made just for the purposes of what I am writing now. Just to show you a visible difference, which you can see with your own eyes. The lighter, less effective coloured one has been made, in exactly the same way in which you have always been told to roll your boilies, since you first took up carp fishing. In exactly the same way as freezer baits are made everywhere that carp fishing is practiced. Eggs in a bowl, add your liquid additives, add your powders form into a paste, put into a bag for ten minutes and roll. Standard procedure.
Fermenting your freezer baits at home.
What I am going to share with you today, is such a simple thing to do when making your own freezer bait at home. You do not need to buy any expensive additives, you do not need to change your favourite boilie recipe. With just one extra ingredient, time, you are going to immeasurably improve the bait that you make. In the photograph, there are two S2 crushed cork pop ups, side by side. One, is slightly darker than the other. The darker one, also smells slightly different to the human nose. Despite being made with identical ingredients, identical base mix and liquids, all from exactly the same batch... One of them, is slightly darker than the other. The darker hook bait itself, has an almost olive smelling twang to it. If you tasted the two pastes before they were rolled, the darker one has a much richer and more intense taste to it. But they were made with identical ingredients. The darker one, is in fact, far more effective... It will actually catch you more carp, than the lighter one will. The lighter one, has been made just for the purposes of what I am writing now. Just to show you a visible difference, which you can see with your own eyes. The lighter, less effective coloured one has been made, in exactly the same way in which you have always been told to roll your boilies, since you first took up carp fishing. In exactly the same way as freezer baits are made everywhere that carp fishing is practiced. Eggs in a bowl, add your liquid additives, add your powders form into a paste, put into a bag for ten minutes and roll. Standard procedure.
In reply to Post #1434
Nicely written Mark.
As per article, Your Quality results take time. You cannot rush mother nature doing what it does best.
That will get people thinking, and rolling home bait
Nicely written Mark.
As per article, Your Quality results take time. You cannot rush mother nature doing what it does best.
That will get people thinking, and rolling home bait
In reply to Post #1433
Mark many thanks for this - looking forward to giving this a go on me 'ol faithful homemade mix of 20 + years!
quick question regarding the below..
re* Because we are using egg, and no water in our dough, things happen slightly differently*
i do NOT use eggs in my mix - instead i use 1/2 oz egg albumin in my mix + water, can this 'fermenting' been done with that OR ....would i need to change over to just using eggs?
TIA
Mark many thanks for this - looking forward to giving this a go on me 'ol faithful homemade mix of 20 + years!
quick question regarding the below..
re* Because we are using egg, and no water in our dough, things happen slightly differently*
i do NOT use eggs in my mix - instead i use 1/2 oz egg albumin in my mix + water, can this 'fermenting' been done with that OR ....would i need to change over to just using eggs?
TIA
In reply to Post #1431
Sam went back after work this afternoon, same swim as they were obviously about. Within minutes of casting out, he's had a mid 40. Well done Sam 🥳
Sam went back after work this afternoon, same swim as they were obviously about. Within minutes of casting out, he's had a mid 40. Well done Sam 🥳
In reply to Post #1436
Water, instead of real egg will def speed things up. You will need to have a play yourself regarding times. I never make bait with powdered egg and water so I would not even know.
It might be even better!! If you have yeast in there, you will need to be slightly wary of going to far and it all floating though.
Many carp anglers will read what I wrote today, and it will go straight over their heads. Anyone who is into their bait, it should get them thinking a bit more.
Water, instead of real egg will def speed things up. You will need to have a play yourself regarding times. I never make bait with powdered egg and water so I would not even know.
It might be even better!! If you have yeast in there, you will need to be slightly wary of going to far and it all floating though.
Many carp anglers will read what I wrote today, and it will go straight over their heads. Anyone who is into their bait, it should get them thinking a bit more.
In reply to Post #1434
Love it
Edit
If you have yeast in there
I was going to ask that to speed things up a bit
Love it
Edit
If you have yeast in there
I was going to ask that to speed things up a bit
In reply to Post #1438
thx for reply!
yeah will make small 4oz batches and experiment, to start...
my mix does have Brocacel, however there is a heavy ingredient (highest % of total mix) in it, that should help avoid it floating.
re *Many carp anglers will read what I wrote today, and it will go straight over their heads. Anyone who is into their bait, it should get them thinking a bit more.*
IMO, thats simply cos the majority that got into this game say over the last 25 years have just taken the easy route & bought shop/commercial baits, i started 40 years ago, EVERY Carper back then made there own SECRET SPECIALS
, cos their was bugger all ready made available, only a few powered mixes!
who here remembers duncan kay slyme baits and the famous black magic mix?!
HAPPY DAYS indeed!
thx for reply!
yeah will make small 4oz batches and experiment, to start...
my mix does have Brocacel, however there is a heavy ingredient (highest % of total mix) in it, that should help avoid it floating.
re *Many carp anglers will read what I wrote today, and it will go straight over their heads. Anyone who is into their bait, it should get them thinking a bit more.*
IMO, thats simply cos the majority that got into this game say over the last 25 years have just taken the easy route & bought shop/commercial baits, i started 40 years ago, EVERY Carper back then made there own SECRET SPECIALS
, cos their was bugger all ready made available, only a few powered mixes!who here remembers duncan kay slyme baits and the famous black magic mix?!
HAPPY DAYS indeed!
You're very welcome. I hope it gets you all thinking about your bait a bit more.
Nature is far better at its job of attraction than we are. Nature has its very own way of making food attractive. Chemical investigation triggers unquestionably work, but there are other better forms of attraction in a food based bait like your boilies. Think of it in a slightly different way to how I tried to explain it yesterday, and forget about fish.
Take two bananas instead. One is green on the skin, one is yellow with black spots starting to appear all over it. Take the skins off, the actual food looks pretty much the same... Both are pale yellow, just one will be slightly darker than the other. They taste incredibly different. We all know, from a very young age, the yellow skinned one is the one to eat. Nature made it far sweeter, as it ripens (another word for breaking down). It tastes completely different... Nature makes that food, far more attractive to us and other animals. A natural signal, to eat that food now.
Throw those two bananas in front of a monkey twenty times. The monkey will pick up the ripe one first, every single time.
A couple years ago, I revealed how we had always hard coated our hook baits in powders, utilising gelatine (on this forum first). Did you notice how many bait companies, all came out with an active/coated boiled bait over the following year? Yesterday was a eureka moment, for far more bait makers than will ever publicly admit it.
Suddenly, S2 ('sugars' 2) starts to make a little bit more sense.... It's been a decade, it's good to give a little bit back. It's not giving away 'everything'. Just a little bit.
Nature is far better at its job of attraction than we are. Nature has its very own way of making food attractive. Chemical investigation triggers unquestionably work, but there are other better forms of attraction in a food based bait like your boilies. Think of it in a slightly different way to how I tried to explain it yesterday, and forget about fish.
Take two bananas instead. One is green on the skin, one is yellow with black spots starting to appear all over it. Take the skins off, the actual food looks pretty much the same... Both are pale yellow, just one will be slightly darker than the other. They taste incredibly different. We all know, from a very young age, the yellow skinned one is the one to eat. Nature made it far sweeter, as it ripens (another word for breaking down). It tastes completely different... Nature makes that food, far more attractive to us and other animals. A natural signal, to eat that food now.
Throw those two bananas in front of a monkey twenty times. The monkey will pick up the ripe one first, every single time.
A couple years ago, I revealed how we had always hard coated our hook baits in powders, utilising gelatine (on this forum first). Did you notice how many bait companies, all came out with an active/coated boiled bait over the following year? Yesterday was a eureka moment, for far more bait makers than will ever publicly admit it.
Suddenly, S2 ('sugars' 2) starts to make a little bit more sense.... It's been a decade, it's good to give a little bit back. It's not giving away 'everything'. Just a little bit.
In reply to Post #1431
Leeroyjenkins (Sam's) 45lb from yesterday. He also followed it up with a 36lb this morning in that bitter horrible weather. Absolutely slaying them Sam! Well done again 💪🏻
45lb8oz pink S2
36lb8oz pink S2
Leeroyjenkins (Sam's) 45lb from yesterday. He also followed it up with a 36lb this morning in that bitter horrible weather. Absolutely slaying them Sam! Well done again 💪🏻
45lb8oz pink S2
36lb8oz pink S2
In reply to Post #1442
Cheers mate, I seem to have cashed in a bit of luck recently
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Cheers mate, I seem to have cashed in a bit of luck recently
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In reply to Post #1443
Don't be so modest, luck has zero to do with anything. Last night was the coldest March night on record. What's that, three over 35lb & a 45lb near PB in the last few days... You went back, because you knew they were there. You put something you now know they love, close to them. You caught them. Luck had nothing to do with it.
Between yourself and Clint, you have both hauled on that place this winter. Seriously well done.
I know most things about what makes the hook baits work, because I created them. But I have never got to the bottom of why the S2, is so much more lethal in the Winter and Spring. They catch stupidly at all times of year... But they should literally be illegal in cold water. I knew that 15 years ago. I still do not know why though.
Don't be so modest, luck has zero to do with anything. Last night was the coldest March night on record. What's that, three over 35lb & a 45lb near PB in the last few days... You went back, because you knew they were there. You put something you now know they love, close to them. You caught them. Luck had nothing to do with it.
Between yourself and Clint, you have both hauled on that place this winter. Seriously well done.
I know most things about what makes the hook baits work, because I created them. But I have never got to the bottom of why the S2, is so much more lethal in the Winter and Spring. They catch stupidly at all times of year... But they should literally be illegal in cold water. I knew that 15 years ago. I still do not know why though.
In reply to Post #1444
There's a few others using them (and catching on them) on there as well 👍
Same as a few of us on waters close by as well. And thats just the people admitting to using them, i think i said last year, saw a tub on someone's bivvy table and he tried to say it was an old pot with his “sponsors” baits in it 😂
Just fantastic hookbaits 💪
There's a few others using them (and catching on them) on there as well 👍
Same as a few of us on waters close by as well. And thats just the people admitting to using them, i think i said last year, saw a tub on someone's bivvy table and he tried to say it was an old pot with his “sponsors” baits in it 😂
Just fantastic hookbaits 💪
In reply to Post #1443
Absolute chunks Leroy - Well done mate.
Also thank TCarper for the heads up ref base mix.
Absolute chunks Leroy - Well done mate.
Also thank TCarper for the heads up ref base mix.
In reply to Post #1445
I tried to explain it on here a while ago mate.... I get to see.... Even if the fish are not publicised and I never even get to see the photos.
I get to see, just from the amount of stuff we are sending to Devon and the surrounding areas every single week. It goes in waves all around the country... When anglers are having it right off, every other sensible sod for miles around finds out what they are having them on. Trust me, they all find out soon enough. That has a far bigger effect on our sales, than anything else. They are very different customers to, Insta or Faceache gained customers too generally. A flashy advert sells product. But carp anglers seeing another angler having incredible results with their own eyes, is far better though. They become long term repeat customers.
The same thing is going on in Manchester and its surrounding areas right now.... But unlike Devon, I have no clue whatsoever what's been caught. But I know damn well from previous experience, that the ongoing surge in orders over the winter we have seen from Manchester means only one thing... Someone, (or like Devon, a whole number of them) have been having it right off, and everyone else found out what they are up too.
We may now live in the age of constant social media, but the more secretive big carp grapevine is also still alive, and very well. I have so many photos from the last decade, that would literally make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Fish, mainstream carp fishing does not even know exist some of them. From massively loyal customers, who cannot, or will not show what they have caught. I get shown the photo, and asked to never show it to anyone.
I tried to explain it on here a while ago mate.... I get to see.... Even if the fish are not publicised and I never even get to see the photos.
I get to see, just from the amount of stuff we are sending to Devon and the surrounding areas every single week. It goes in waves all around the country... When anglers are having it right off, every other sensible sod for miles around finds out what they are having them on. Trust me, they all find out soon enough. That has a far bigger effect on our sales, than anything else. They are very different customers to, Insta or Faceache gained customers too generally. A flashy advert sells product. But carp anglers seeing another angler having incredible results with their own eyes, is far better though. They become long term repeat customers.
The same thing is going on in Manchester and its surrounding areas right now.... But unlike Devon, I have no clue whatsoever what's been caught. But I know damn well from previous experience, that the ongoing surge in orders over the winter we have seen from Manchester means only one thing... Someone, (or like Devon, a whole number of them) have been having it right off, and everyone else found out what they are up too.
We may now live in the age of constant social media, but the more secretive big carp grapevine is also still alive, and very well. I have so many photos from the last decade, that would literally make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Fish, mainstream carp fishing does not even know exist some of them. From massively loyal customers, who cannot, or will not show what they have caught. I get shown the photo, and asked to never show it to anyone.
In reply to Post #1447
What I said yesterday about social media sales not being the be all and end all. Here's a great example of that. This photo is from around five years ago. It is the 50+ that Terry Hearn later caught on casters, it featured in the ESP video. It lives in a low stock, incredibly tricky little pit in the Colne Valley as you likely already saw yourself in that video.
Before Terry's capture on caster, for the previous five or six years, this fish only got caught on an S2. It was banked four times I think it was during that period. There were only three of them using S2's on the syndicate. Imagine how many hook baits that sold us. Imagine how many sensible carp anglers from the Colne Valley found out what I just told you and purchased hook baits off the back of it.
In a similar vein, to the anglers who have had the now legendary results at some of the busiest syndicates like Wingham, Frimley or Dinton over the last decade. These working blokes, are outnumbered monstrously by teams of anglers from the countries biggest bait firms on these types of pits.
The Wingham 60+, similar to the fish in this photo below, if you were not using our hook baits over the last decade... You were very likely not going to catch the biggest fish in the lake. They all pay a lot of money for their tickets. The target for everyone came out three times last year, once on a GPB1 & twice on a GPB2. The big scaly that blew up in there and smashed the british record... Was actually caught by one of our long term customers... Who does not publicise his captures as far as I know. For a five year period, long before that... That fish only came out twice in five years, something like that... Guess what it was on both of those times?
There is a pit being discussed on this forum right now. One of our customers and a couple of his pals, caught the two biggest fish in this syndicate/club lake multiple times on an S2 between them. These fish and the rest, had been caught many times previously by others on an S2 as well. The syndicate/club leaders got the right ump and banned cork balls as the story was told to me! One of the proudest moments of my life I can tell you! They actually banned cork ball hook baits, just to try to stop these lads incredible catches on S2's! The lads used crushed cork S2's instead (which we were just about to release at the time). The lads themselves, were eventually banned for something else one of them told me.
We really don't need to show the world the photos anymore to sell the hook baits. Results like those above, sell the hook baits on their own through word of mouth quite well. The anglers who see or hear this themselves, and then all their friends... They all become long term customers. It spreads like a web.
What I said yesterday about social media sales not being the be all and end all. Here's a great example of that. This photo is from around five years ago. It is the 50+ that Terry Hearn later caught on casters, it featured in the ESP video. It lives in a low stock, incredibly tricky little pit in the Colne Valley as you likely already saw yourself in that video.
Before Terry's capture on caster, for the previous five or six years, this fish only got caught on an S2. It was banked four times I think it was during that period. There were only three of them using S2's on the syndicate. Imagine how many hook baits that sold us. Imagine how many sensible carp anglers from the Colne Valley found out what I just told you and purchased hook baits off the back of it.
In a similar vein, to the anglers who have had the now legendary results at some of the busiest syndicates like Wingham, Frimley or Dinton over the last decade. These working blokes, are outnumbered monstrously by teams of anglers from the countries biggest bait firms on these types of pits.
The Wingham 60+, similar to the fish in this photo below, if you were not using our hook baits over the last decade... You were very likely not going to catch the biggest fish in the lake. They all pay a lot of money for their tickets. The target for everyone came out three times last year, once on a GPB1 & twice on a GPB2. The big scaly that blew up in there and smashed the british record... Was actually caught by one of our long term customers... Who does not publicise his captures as far as I know. For a five year period, long before that... That fish only came out twice in five years, something like that... Guess what it was on both of those times?
There is a pit being discussed on this forum right now. One of our customers and a couple of his pals, caught the two biggest fish in this syndicate/club lake multiple times on an S2 between them. These fish and the rest, had been caught many times previously by others on an S2 as well. The syndicate/club leaders got the right ump and banned cork balls as the story was told to me! One of the proudest moments of my life I can tell you! They actually banned cork ball hook baits, just to try to stop these lads incredible catches on S2's! The lads used crushed cork S2's instead (which we were just about to release at the time). The lads themselves, were eventually banned for something else one of them told me.
We really don't need to show the world the photos anymore to sell the hook baits. Results like those above, sell the hook baits on their own through word of mouth quite well. The anglers who see or hear this themselves, and then all their friends... They all become long term customers. It spreads like a web.