In reply to Post #74
I was taught to use the rod to gain line then reel in whatever had been gained. If you just use the reel you may as well fish with a broom handle. No reel is designed to be used like a winch,and would soon show signs of wear.
I was taught to use the rod to gain line then reel in whatever had been gained. If you just use the reel you may as well fish with a broom handle. No reel is designed to be used like a winch,and would soon show signs of wear.
In reply to Post #76
You are correct when it comes to playing a fish, rather than winching it straight in.
Let me give you a better example...
Barbel fishing on the trent, reeling in a 6oz feeder with a bit of weed around it, hard work on my shimano aero 6010 reels, need to be "pumped" in to lift the feeder and straighten the bow in the line and get the feeder up to the surface, and then i can wind it in.
Using my bigger reels, vintage daiwa emblem s5000t, I can pick the rod up and reel it straight in as I now have enough winching power.
The smaller reel with smaller internal gears can't easily wind in with enough force, so it's clear the handle doesn't matter, whether single or double handle.
A longer handle (lever) will give more cranking power, but you could easily overloaded the gears and strip the cogs.
You are correct when it comes to playing a fish, rather than winching it straight in.
Let me give you a better example...
Barbel fishing on the trent, reeling in a 6oz feeder with a bit of weed around it, hard work on my shimano aero 6010 reels, need to be "pumped" in to lift the feeder and straighten the bow in the line and get the feeder up to the surface, and then i can wind it in.
Using my bigger reels, vintage daiwa emblem s5000t, I can pick the rod up and reel it straight in as I now have enough winching power.
The smaller reel with smaller internal gears can't easily wind in with enough force, so it's clear the handle doesn't matter, whether single or double handle.
A longer handle (lever) will give more cranking power, but you could easily overloaded the gears and strip the cogs.
In reply to Post #77
Agree with this - much as I love them (and still own 2 pairs for nostalgia if nothing else - 5010s/8010s) shimmy baitrunners are a bit outdated these days . . . sticky, complex rear drag, bait runner drag collars that perish, spools that are way too small (and create even more line twist) and cranking power (especially on big rivers) even with their sexy double handles (I always liked em) is poor . . . .hence my new found love of the Daiwa 25mm spool concept which alleviates a lot of the above IMO.
Agree with this - much as I love them (and still own 2 pairs for nostalgia if nothing else - 5010s/8010s) shimmy baitrunners are a bit outdated these days . . . sticky, complex rear drag, bait runner drag collars that perish, spools that are way too small (and create even more line twist) and cranking power (especially on big rivers) even with their sexy double handles (I always liked em) is poor . . . .hence my new found love of the Daiwa 25mm spool concept which alleviates a lot of the above IMO.
In reply to Post #77
Must be really lucky with my Shimano 8010 Aero GT that are still great for carp fishing under a 100 yards and the 4500 baitrunners on my Pike rods for every winter.
Although still use Daiwa Tournament 5000t for distance carp fishing over 100 yards so perhaps I am just out of touch with modern carp fishing practices?
Although still use Daiwa Tournament 5000t for distance carp fishing over 100 yards so perhaps I am just out of touch with modern carp fishing practices?
In reply to Post #80
Perhaps replace “practices” with “fashion”.
Perhaps replace “practices” with “fashion”.
Just to chuck in my thoughts on an old thread!
I have had the Okuma inc 6000's, and yes, they were great, the clutch is excellent, but, I did have the fault with the backwind. I ended up selling my short rod set up, and then missed it after a year or so, so ended up getting another, I used my Obsidians briefly on them which due to their weight worked well, but I needed them on my longer rods, so I wanted some compact reels for my 10fters. If I had the budget at the time, I'd have got the Onyx Compacts, I disregarded the Okuma simply due to their age now, and reels have come a long way in the last 5 years.
I've always steered clear of Sonik reels, because they used to be dreadful, but I looked into the 5k Carbons, and was quite pleased with them, the build etc is great and more up to date compared to the Okuma's, their only downside was the clutch, so rather than be unhappy with them, I ordered the ice washers for them and it's made them perfect, they're getting their first outing tomorrow, so hopefully all is well!
I have had the Okuma inc 6000's, and yes, they were great, the clutch is excellent, but, I did have the fault with the backwind. I ended up selling my short rod set up, and then missed it after a year or so, so ended up getting another, I used my Obsidians briefly on them which due to their weight worked well, but I needed them on my longer rods, so I wanted some compact reels for my 10fters. If I had the budget at the time, I'd have got the Onyx Compacts, I disregarded the Okuma simply due to their age now, and reels have come a long way in the last 5 years.
I've always steered clear of Sonik reels, because they used to be dreadful, but I looked into the 5k Carbons, and was quite pleased with them, the build etc is great and more up to date compared to the Okuma's, their only downside was the clutch, so rather than be unhappy with them, I ordered the ice washers for them and it's made them perfect, they're getting their first outing tomorrow, so hopefully all is well!
Shimano Ultegra 5500. Superb 👍
Check how they fit in a rod bag though, i have found most of the 10 foot holdalls to be poorly designed. Currently using a Korda one
Tried my 6000 baitrunners and much prefer the above. Reckon the ultegras will be going on my river high water level rods soon, much better cranking power
Check how they fit in a rod bag though, i have found most of the 10 foot holdalls to be poorly designed. Currently using a Korda one
Tried my 6000 baitrunners and much prefer the above. Reckon the ultegras will be going on my river high water level rods soon, much better cranking power
I tried loads, several Daiwas great but too small or too big, soniks clutch was terrible and line kept going under the reel.
I settled on the penn rival 6000 LC blacks with the shallow spools, lovely clutch, reasonable line lay, ideal size and felt robust. All for under 80 quid each!
Then I got a ticket for a 25 acre weedy pit and went back to real rods and reels😂😂.
I settled on the penn rival 6000 LC blacks with the shallow spools, lovely clutch, reasonable line lay, ideal size and felt robust. All for under 80 quid each!
Then I got a ticket for a 25 acre weedy pit and went back to real rods and reels😂😂.
Based on feedback on this forum I bought 3 Okuma inc 6000's for my 10ft retractable rods. On first use, they seemed to be ideal and nice reels, but all that fell apart when I fished a very weedy lake. They really lacked winding power when bringing fish through weed, with the whole body of the reels bending and twisting.
So the Okuma's are back on the garage shelf to gather dust and my Basia's are back on the rods, which feel great.
So the Okuma's are back on the garage shelf to gather dust and my Basia's are back on the rods, which feel great.
In reply to Post #85
Basias on 10 footers . . .heresy!
Basias on 10 footers . . .heresy!
In reply to Post #14
Happened to my reel. Took it to the tackle box and okuma supplied the part for free, fitted f.o.c and it's been fine ever since.
Happened to my reel. Took it to the tackle box and okuma supplied the part for free, fitted f.o.c and it's been fine ever since.
In reply to Post #83
Personally I think the Shimano 5500 (I have the Ci4 XTB) are the perfect all round size reel for carp fishing. Whether fishing the margins or at 140 they don't feel out of place.
Personally I think the Shimano 5500 (I have the Ci4 XTB) are the perfect all round size reel for carp fishing. Whether fishing the margins or at 140 they don't feel out of place.
In reply to Post #88
I did try them but the clutch was so quick which I couldn't get on with, lovely reels otherwise 👌.
I've got 22 whiskers on my 12ft rods which is a lovely reel and have wondered how they'd get on strapped to 10ft rods
I did try them but the clutch was so quick which I couldn't get on with, lovely reels otherwise 👌.
I've got 22 whiskers on my 12ft rods which is a lovely reel and have wondered how they'd get on strapped to 10ft rods