In reply to Post #30
I don't doubt it. And if the cyber warfare hype is to be believed then I expect they've got all bases covered. From BA to banks to whatever suits their purposes
Probably a more sophisticated operation than the Moscow version of the IT crowd...
I don't doubt it. And if the cyber warfare hype is to be believed then I expect they've got all bases covered. From BA to banks to whatever suits their purposes
Probably a more sophisticated operation than the Moscow version of the IT crowd...
All of what we're seeing happening in Ukraine is because of the West's constant meddling.
The invitation by Bush and Cheney in the 90's to Ukraine to join NATO after it's split from Russia. Aiding and abetting the overthrow of the pro Russian leader of Ukraine for a sock puppet of the West (read as American sock puppet) recent speeches by the current leader of Ukraine to have nuclear weapons and not a single voice piped up to stop such insanity... right on Russia's doorstep.
I'll pose the question here: how would we react in England if pro Russian forces were in Wales making the same noises that the Ukraine government are?
I would rather have seen Ukraine become a neutral country and Russian fears be alleviated and had not come to this point, it would have been the best outcome for everyone, but alas no, American interests must be served, right, right to the point of collapsing everything? By imposing all of these sanctions on Russia, ignoring their legitimate claims of security, the removal of Russian banks from the Swift system will not only move Russia away from Western banking - the Indians are setting up clearing houses to trade with Russia which will negate Swift altogether and have other countries like China swerve Swift also - the other important point is that having removed Russia from Swift, it will cause the collapse of the western system as we know it part due to the effects on sovereign debt which the Fed has been warning about; the ramifications of all of this are massive.
Something else worth noting is that when Russia does eventually take over Ukraine, from what I'm hearing, because the Russians are being pushed out of Western banking circles, Russia will hold all of the cards when it comes to agriculture. We could see the price of wheat going to 300% of it's current price. Right now because of what is happening in Ukraine, the price per bushel of wheat is at an all time high. So not only are we just recovering from the effects of COVID, the sky high prices on oil and gas, now food could go to the moon, all because the West just couldn't help themselves by poking the Bear with a sh4tty stick.
I've never understood why we have always treated Russia in the way that we have, after all, Russia was an ally in WWII that helped smash the Nazi war machine, instead, ever since WWII Russia has been the bad apple in the basket. Sure, Stalin was an insane lunatic and all that came with the Soviet era, I won't argue that, all the same, the sheer disrespect and bullying tactics shown to Russians over the years is to my mind possibly one of the worst things our elitist masters could have ever done; in essence, it's the West that has become a tyrannical force imposing it's will on others wether they like it or not and care not one jott of the repercussions to a large extent.
The invitation by Bush and Cheney in the 90's to Ukraine to join NATO after it's split from Russia. Aiding and abetting the overthrow of the pro Russian leader of Ukraine for a sock puppet of the West (read as American sock puppet) recent speeches by the current leader of Ukraine to have nuclear weapons and not a single voice piped up to stop such insanity... right on Russia's doorstep.
I'll pose the question here: how would we react in England if pro Russian forces were in Wales making the same noises that the Ukraine government are?
I would rather have seen Ukraine become a neutral country and Russian fears be alleviated and had not come to this point, it would have been the best outcome for everyone, but alas no, American interests must be served, right, right to the point of collapsing everything? By imposing all of these sanctions on Russia, ignoring their legitimate claims of security, the removal of Russian banks from the Swift system will not only move Russia away from Western banking - the Indians are setting up clearing houses to trade with Russia which will negate Swift altogether and have other countries like China swerve Swift also - the other important point is that having removed Russia from Swift, it will cause the collapse of the western system as we know it part due to the effects on sovereign debt which the Fed has been warning about; the ramifications of all of this are massive.
Something else worth noting is that when Russia does eventually take over Ukraine, from what I'm hearing, because the Russians are being pushed out of Western banking circles, Russia will hold all of the cards when it comes to agriculture. We could see the price of wheat going to 300% of it's current price. Right now because of what is happening in Ukraine, the price per bushel of wheat is at an all time high. So not only are we just recovering from the effects of COVID, the sky high prices on oil and gas, now food could go to the moon, all because the West just couldn't help themselves by poking the Bear with a sh4tty stick.
I've never understood why we have always treated Russia in the way that we have, after all, Russia was an ally in WWII that helped smash the Nazi war machine, instead, ever since WWII Russia has been the bad apple in the basket. Sure, Stalin was an insane lunatic and all that came with the Soviet era, I won't argue that, all the same, the sheer disrespect and bullying tactics shown to Russians over the years is to my mind possibly one of the worst things our elitist masters could have ever done; in essence, it's the West that has become a tyrannical force imposing it's will on others wether they like it or not and care not one jott of the repercussions to a large extent.
Here's Putin's reasoning as to why he has acted the way he has...
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/here-is-the-full-text-of-putins-speech-this-morning-feb-24-2022/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/here-is-the-full-text-of-putins-speech-this-morning-feb-24-2022/
In reply to Post #32
Salisbury.
Salisbury.
In reply to Post #34
And what's that got to do with NATO and possibly nukes parked right next door to Russia?
Stay on point and don't stray.
And what's that got to do with NATO and possibly nukes parked right next door to Russia?
Stay on point and don't stray.
This is worth a look if you are wondering how this developed.
https://theconversation.com/how-putin-used-propaganda-to-deftly-turn-russians-against-ukrainians-81376
https://theconversation.com/how-putin-used-propaganda-to-deftly-turn-russians-against-ukrainians-81376
In reply to Post #24
we might not be yet.....
we might not be yet.....
In reply to Post #32
It's always someones elses fault. The bloke is an absolute fruitcake. He knew exactly what Nato would do if he invaded the Ukraine, this wasnt done on a whim this would have been years in the making, so what Nato have done is not a surprise.
Now that his best paratroopers and special elite have let him down, he is ratcheting up the anti, forget all the ******** of missiles on doorsteps, as the USA and Russia are only split by a body of water of 40 miles, he is now well and truly throwing his toys out the pram, and when that happens by someone who is as deranged as him it could be a dangerous place for the world. Even if he uses a nuke on someone, he knows he'll have nukes thrown back at him, some humans are vile, him more than most
It's always someones elses fault. The bloke is an absolute fruitcake. He knew exactly what Nato would do if he invaded the Ukraine, this wasnt done on a whim this would have been years in the making, so what Nato have done is not a surprise.
Now that his best paratroopers and special elite have let him down, he is ratcheting up the anti, forget all the ******** of missiles on doorsteps, as the USA and Russia are only split by a body of water of 40 miles, he is now well and truly throwing his toys out the pram, and when that happens by someone who is as deranged as him it could be a dangerous place for the world. Even if he uses a nuke on someone, he knows he'll have nukes thrown back at him, some humans are vile, him more than most
In reply to Post #38
He won't push the button,as much as a complete fckin loon he is he knows if he did Russia would be obliterated. as for India backing him,wtf they going to do chuck cricket balls at us..
In reply to Post #38
Becareful he might be watching you
Becareful he might be watching you
In reply to Post #40
India, Pakistan, China, the UAE/Gulf States, tentatively Brazil, Kazakhstan to name a few.
India as I've said are setting up a system right now to bypass Swift. Once it's up and running, it's all fugged. Find out yourself elsewhere for detailed info. This is huge.
India, Pakistan, China, the UAE/Gulf States, tentatively Brazil, Kazakhstan to name a few.
India as I've said are setting up a system right now to bypass Swift. Once it's up and running, it's all fugged. Find out yourself elsewhere for detailed info. This is huge.
In reply to Post #42
The only thing the uae will worry about is losing all the toms that work out there..its full of Russian brasses, and built on dirty money. wouldn't be surprised this years World Cup goes tits up and cancelled...Brazil,no idea..aint they all stoned oe coked up..
The only thing the uae will worry about is losing all the toms that work out there..its full of Russian brasses, and built on dirty money. wouldn't be surprised this years World Cup goes tits up and cancelled...Brazil,no idea..aint they all stoned oe coked up..
In reply to Post #42
You better get suited up and go sort it out Rambo style
You better get suited up and go sort it out Rambo style
In reply to Post #42
what Internet cafe are India setting that up in?
what Internet cafe are India setting that up in?