In reply to Post #15
Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply
In reply to Post #1
Not being funny but how big was the fish that you hooked in the top lip? The only time I've ever had weird hookholds with this rig is when catching small fish on it/ when using short pop-up sections. Generally find a decent, blatant 3" stiff section with bigger fish leads to them being nailed.
Not being funny but how big was the fish that you hooked in the top lip? The only time I've ever had weird hookholds with this rig is when catching small fish on it/ when using short pop-up sections. Generally find a decent, blatant 3" stiff section with bigger fish leads to them being nailed.
In reply to Post #17
The fish was 15 pounds
The fish was 15 pounds
In reply to Post #1
It's one of the most proven rigs so I wouldn't over think it.
My guess is that the rig was sitting strangely on the bottom as it had been played with by crays, or trapped by a bit of chod etc.
The HSR has such a strong pedigree over decades that you really don't need to overthink it
It's one of the most proven rigs so I wouldn't over think it.
My guess is that the rig was sitting strangely on the bottom as it had been played with by crays, or trapped by a bit of chod etc.
The HSR has such a strong pedigree over decades that you really don't need to overthink it
Over a slightly dirty bottom would esp tungsten loaded semi stiff work. The lake bed isn't that dirty but the odd bit of chod and odd bit of weed
In reply to Post #20
Yep , ideal in fact , it's what I have used to good success in the past
Yep , ideal in fact , it's what I have used to good success in the past
In reply to Post #21
Cheers
Cheers
In reply to Post #14
Tungskin in the 35lb will cover all bases.
Tungskin in the 35lb will cover all bases.
I've started to come away from Heli setups more and more these days. Does anyone have experience with using hinges on lead clips, the norm seems to be for stiff booms on helis. But I'm looking to fish roughly 10-12inches on semi stiff tungsten loaded with a hinge (chod section). In silt and light weed I'll be dropping lead down to 2oz or something. Any advice on if this will likely present well over most bottoms if I'm getting some sort of drop? Quite often I'll be casting at shows or just trying to keep minimal disturbance, least casts as
Possible, so want something that'll basically sit over most things. Im fishing this against chod rigs to see how they both perform
Possible, so want something that'll basically sit over most things. Im fishing this against chod rigs to see how they both perform
In reply to Post #24
One of my syndicates has a leader ban so I stopped using helis and moved to lead clips and the hinge stiff rig still worked fine. I use tungsten loaded in semi stiff for majority of my fishing as I find it covers most circumstances. I use a slightly shorter boom than you suggest, but no reason why it won't work, Per below comments just tweak to cover the lake bed you are fishing over and check the hook holds when you catch to see if they need to be shortened (or lengthened)
One of my syndicates has a leader ban so I stopped using helis and moved to lead clips and the hinge stiff rig still worked fine. I use tungsten loaded in semi stiff for majority of my fishing as I find it covers most circumstances. I use a slightly shorter boom than you suggest, but no reason why it won't work, Per below comments just tweak to cover the lake bed you are fishing over and check the hook holds when you catch to see if they need to be shortened (or lengthened)
Ist my fav pop up rig.
Works with any lead setup i tried.
Mostly leadclip, inline and free running lead
Works with any lead setup i tried.
Mostly leadclip, inline and free running lead
Try not to overthink things here. Bottom line is.... one bite, one landed. Agree bottom lip is the preferred hook hold we are all looking for but the conversion rate is what all anglers need to come good
I personally use Atomic Jel-e-wyre as a ‘boom' section. Covers almost every situation you would need that rig in. I do have some tied with IQ2 as well, just incase I fancy a change, they are there if I need them. All rigs are tied to Korda ready made chod sections. Never had an issue
It's a brilliant rig, One you can lay traps with bait and fish over or flick a single at a showing fish
Stick with it, it'll come good for you
I personally use Atomic Jel-e-wyre as a ‘boom' section. Covers almost every situation you would need that rig in. I do have some tied with IQ2 as well, just incase I fancy a change, they are there if I need them. All rigs are tied to Korda ready made chod sections. Never had an issue
It's a brilliant rig, One you can lay traps with bait and fish over or flick a single at a showing fish
Stick with it, it'll come good for you
Tying a few new booms up today, can someone shed some light onto putty placement for this rig. I much prefer the look off just tying direct to a ring swivel (chod section) then putting the putty around the knot (Darrel peck style) than adding to the chod section itself. It seems to have a few advantages. The chod section is totally unimpaired by any weight so spins much more freely and also means less weight for a
Pop up to cock properly. Seems to sit up nicer as well. However I see the classic and more common way is to add the putty to the chod section. Is this just a
Personal preference thing or is there a mechanical reasons that this original way is more effective?
Pop up to cock properly. Seems to sit up nicer as well. However I see the classic and more common way is to add the putty to the chod section. Is this just a
Personal preference thing or is there a mechanical reasons that this original way is more effective?
In reply to Post #28
Personal preference with that mate.
Don't think it makes much odds either way, but, like you said I prefer to weigh the boom section and leave the chody section free to spin as the swivel intended.
ATB
Ash
Personal preference with that mate.
Don't think it makes much odds either way, but, like you said I prefer to weigh the boom section and leave the chody section free to spin as the swivel intended.
ATB
Ash
In reply to Post #28
I wonder if it could be because they were initially intended to be used with a cork pop up & a largish loop section on the boom instead of a ring swivel that's often used these days. So it would make sense to put the putty around the swivel + it's a nice secure anchor point.
Having experimented I still prefer to use the loop as I think it gives more movement & ensures the hook can still turn to some extent even if the swivel gets snagged or locked up - which potentially may be another reason for the putty location.
I wonder if it could be because they were initially intended to be used with a cork pop up & a largish loop section on the boom instead of a ring swivel that's often used these days. So it would make sense to put the putty around the swivel + it's a nice secure anchor point.
Having experimented I still prefer to use the loop as I think it gives more movement & ensures the hook can still turn to some extent even if the swivel gets snagged or locked up - which potentially may be another reason for the putty location.